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Old 07-04-2008, 07:06 AM     Post subject: Flopped top set with straight draw on board #1 (permalink)  

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After the flop betting, I was pretty sure I was up against QJ and maybe a flush draw...I couldn't convince myself that anyone had the bottom end.

The only reason I stayed in this pot so long was because it was already so big-and if I did catch, or happened to have the best hand, I was getting paid big.

Would you have taken this all the way? or could you have convinced yourself to let it go?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (23 SB) , , (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO 3-bets, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (20 BB) (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (34 BB) (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 49 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ts Td (full house, tens full of nines).
MP3 has As Ah (two pair, aces and nines).
CO has Jd Qs (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Hero wins 49 BB.
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:23 AM #2 (permalink)  
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LOL. Love the pre action!

I think w/ that many players still hangin to see the turn, I check/call... re-evaluate on river action.

It's almost impossible to put these types on hands, because they always peel soo light, but w/ 4 plrs. on turn, and so coordinated... slam on breaks!

{Nice River}
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:40 AM #3 (permalink)  

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LOL. Love the pre action!

I think w/ that many players still hangin to see the turn, I check/call... re-evaluate on river action.

It's almost impossible to put these types on hands, because they always peel soo light, but w/ 4 plrs. on turn, and so coordinated... slam on breaks!

{Nice River}
Yeah-after the turn got 3-bet, I was hovering my pointer over fold-the size of the pot convinced me to see one more card-at that point I was 99% sure I was behind. Had the river whiffed, I was folding to any raise.
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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LOL. Love the pre action!

I think w/ that many players still hangin to see the turn, I check/call... re-evaluate on river action.

It's almost impossible to put these types on hands, because they always peel soo light, but w/ 4 plrs. on turn, and so coordinated... slam on breaks!

{Nice River}
Yeah-after the turn got 3-bet, I was hovering my pointer over fold-the size of the pot convinced me to see one more card-at that point I was 99% sure I was behind. Had the river whiffed, I was folding to any raise.
Even if you were 100% sure you were behind, you can never fold this turn. NOT EVER. When it is 3 bet you are getting 13-1 odds to call. You have ten outs for quads/full house which is 3.6 - 1.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Even if you were 100% sure you were behind, you can never fold this turn. NOT EVER. When it is 3 bet you are getting 13-1 odds to call. You have ten outs for quads/full house which is 3.6 - 1.
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Old 07-04-2008, 03:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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i think you still made one mistake that cost you a little. overall, its very well played, imo.

can you find the mistake? its one i agonize over all the time, but HAS to be corrected...by both of us.

ps...i dont like the turn lead into a 4-str8 board at this level, but that isnt the mistake i see.
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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Old 07-04-2008, 05:44 PM #7 (permalink)  

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i think you still made one mistake that cost you a little. overall, its very well played, imo.

can you find the mistake? its one i agonize over all the time, but HAS to be corrected...by both of us.

ps...i dont like the turn lead into a 4-str8 board at this level, but that isnt the mistake i see.
I'll have to think about this one.

As far as the 4-str8 on the turn-should I really be worried about someone having x7? After a preflop cap, the only potential hand that may cause a problem is A7c, but even then, I've got a few of his outs covered.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:00 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i'm sorry. i'm the ass here. i cant read a HH to save my sorry ____.

i thought it was only 3bet. i didnt see MP3 cap it. i thought you left a bet on the table by not capping river.

again, my bad. i dont know how i missed that one.
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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Old 07-05-2008, 01:32 AM #9 (permalink)  
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LOL. Love the pre action!

I think w/ that many players still hangin to see the turn, I check/call... re-evaluate on river action.

It's almost impossible to put these types on hands, because they always peel soo light, but w/ 4 plrs. on turn, and so coordinated... slam on breaks!

{Nice River}
Yeah-after the turn got 3-bet, I was hovering my pointer over fold-the size of the pot convinced me to see one more card-at that point I was 99% sure I was behind. Had the river whiffed, I was folding to any raise.
Even if you were 100% sure you were behind, you can never fold this turn. NOT EVER. When it is 3 bet you are getting 13-1 odds to call. You have ten outs for quads/full house which is 3.6 - 1.
I wasn't advocating folding turn... only slowing down!
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