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Monty9
Old 03-23-2007, 04:58 PM     Post subject: Flopped Str8 on Flushy Board #1 (permalink)  
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Early in tourney.

I flop nut striaght A high. two hearts on board ( I have no hearts ).

I'm in late position but oop to op. It's min bet and called to me and I reraise the pot to chase the flushes. All fold but one.

Turn a blank....no heart... I pot it again... opp calls.

River 3 heart....

What's my play????? c/c...c/f...bet/fold ....bet/call ????
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:34 PM     Post subject: mmm #2 (permalink)  

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Will another pot sized bet be AI?

Always interested to see what smarter people will think, IMHO 2 options, bet, which is probably AI or nearly AI, or ck/fold.

BTW, I totally agree the idea is to not give flush draw the pot-odds, but in a $3 SNG many many opponents don't know or care.

If I were him, I would only be chasing the flush if I am on SEMI-TILT! And I have done it many times!

If he has less than the nut flush, and still chased enough to call the turn, he will probably call with any garbage like a 6-hi flush and make me scream "YOU IDIOT, THIS IS OMAHA!"

If you are serious and patient about winning the $3 SNG, I think definitely Ck/fold, since he prob has a flush and even the lamest of flushes have you beat! But if you are approaching the SNG with a "build a stack early or go on to the next one" type thing going on, then go for it. I am amazed at how many times I do that and the person either folds (realizing a little late that their 6-hi flush MAY not be so great after all), or shows some donkey hand like a K-high straight! More than half the time though, if opponent's IQ>80, they have not only a flush but a pretty good one.

But again, $3 SNG a lot of people are shoving chips in hoping THIS time the "bully" (you!) just has the 3rd nut vs their 2nd nuts; after all, they won a lot of hands with K-hi straights in the play money SNG! So I guess bottom line is early in the SNG trying to decide whether he is dead money or has a clue. IF you think he REALLY knows what he is doing, fold to that min bet on flop, he is probably freerolling you with a tie for the broadway, a nut flush draw, and maybe even a long-shot boat draw too.
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:51 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Good answer.... thanks.

The more I think about it in the $3.00 it's probably better to keep the pot small and controled, and hope it holds up to the river rather than trying to push oops off.

I believe someone said or wrote that a flopped straight rarely is the best hand by the river.

That the difference in Omaha and holdem is getting all your money in with the best hand early is not as optimal in Omaha as it is in Hold'em.

and your right most players at this level love to draw to the end nomatter what ... thinking "its Omaha" gotta play them draws...
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Old 03-23-2007, 08:54 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Generally this is a check-(hope he checks)fold if he bets. Small buyin PLO games are full of donks, usually chasing any draw. Most won't bluff the river though.

The board does matter though, if the flop was TJQ then there is a chance that he was calling with 89 ot 9K. Most of the time these hands will check behind on the river, but sometimes they will bet small and you will need to think about paying off.
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