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mojoNOgo
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03-16-2005, 03:56 PM
Post subject: flopped low set w/ lots of action
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 , 5 .
2 folds, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, Button calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP2 caps, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (17 SB) 6, J , 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO raises, Button calls, Hero calls, MP2 3-bets, CO caps, Button calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (16.50 BB) T (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO raises, Button folds, Hero calls, MP2 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls, MP2 calls.
River: (28.50 BB) A (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 folds, CO calls.
Final Pot: 38.50 BB
Results below:
CO has Jc Ac (two pair, aces and jacks).
Hero has 5c 5s (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 38.50 BB.
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should i have jumped in on the betting sooner ? or was my passive stance encouraging their betting ??
no way was i gonna lay this down, but i DID fear AA.
on a sidenote, whenyou guys put your HHs thru the converter, what format do you use??
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Fnord
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Ni Han.
I would have bet the flop, but once MP2 and CO go at it I might draft them too. Perhaps wake up on the turn putting in the 3rd bet because often someone will cry uncle when the bets double.
Bottom line is, how you play these hands doesn't matter much.
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ChezJ
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i'm not understanding your cold calling 3 bets pre flop
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Fnord
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Yeah it's probably a fold since it's not multi-way enough.
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Les_Worm
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Preflop: Fold
Flop: I raise here w/ 2 hearts on board.
Turn/River: I raise as much as possible but all the betting was done for you so either way you aren't getting any more money in the pot. I don't think the backdoor flush is that probable with all the betting going on.
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mojoNOgo
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
i'm not understanding your cold calling 3 bets pre flop
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i called b/c one of the raisers raised for the two previous hands. probably not a smart call longrun but it worked out here.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mojoNOgo
i called b/c one of the raisers raised for the two previous hands. probably not a smart call longrun but it worked out here.
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Then cap it and hope you can get him heads-up ASAP. Besides, cold-capping is fun.
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Then cap it and hope you can get him heads-up ASAP. Besides, cold-capping is fun.
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How often has anyone ever done this? I don't think I have ever cold capped. I've three bet cold, but it seems like a lot of things would have to work out just perfectly to cold cap correctly.
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Chicago_Kid
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I fold this unless I have 5-6 or more in the pot...then I call, and play no set, no bet. With four or less, this has got to be -EV.
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
I fold this unless I have 5-6 or more in the pot...then I call, and play no set, no bet. With four or less, this has got to be -EV.
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I play almost any pair for one bet. The payoff for hitting the set is huge when played correctly. I'm not liking it when I limp with a pair of fours UTG and get only one caller plus the blinds, but what is lost in small pots when you don't flop a set can easily be made up on the time when you do hit the set and the pot is big.
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LeFou
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
I fold this unless I have 5-6 or more in the pot...then I call, and play no set, no bet. With four or less, this has got to be -EV.
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I play almost any pair for one bet. |
lol.
How about three (the actual topic of discussion)?
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by LeFou
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
I fold this unless I have 5-6 or more in the pot...then I call, and play no set, no bet. With four or less, this has got to be -EV.
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I play almost any pair for one bet. |
lol.
How about three (the actual topic of discussion)? |
Didn't see the raise in the pre-flop action. Cut me a little slack, I did read it in the middle of the night. I fold if it's 2.5 bets to me unless it's 9's or better or going to be 4 handed or more. I'm more inclined to call with a pair being in the small blind but 2.5 bets is a lot to make up when you are likely drawing to only two outs.
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