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Lidius
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09-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Post subject: First PT sample 12.9k hands, .25/.5
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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.25/.5 limit
VPIP 20.38 (this is on the way down)
VPIP SB 35.17
W $ WSF 20.99
BB/100 8.86
WTSD 28.53
W$SD 58.24
PFR 5.84
Aggression 2.02
Flop 1.95
Turn 2.02
River 2.17
When Folds
No Fold 9.36 Preflop 71.62 Flop 11.05 Turn 5.00 River 2.97
If there are any other numbers I should include please let me know and thank you.
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jmontis
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i'm still a big PT noob, and have no basis for comparison, but 8bb/100 over 12k hands is safe to say you are doing something right.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Lidius
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thanks
But seriously its the tables and leaving when they hurt my unfortunately weak tight nature (2+aggs will ruin me if I stay)
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jmontis
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still a small sample, but things are getting better
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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both of you are not raising enough preflop.
both of you are not calling down enough.
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jmontis
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
both of you are not raising enough preflop.
both of you are not calling down enough.
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some of my stats are short handed, and it's pretty obvious when I don't need to call down (flop no pair etc)
Also, I wasn't calling down enough for about 2k hands, until Jeff told me to.
I can't imagine what else I should be raising. AJ/KQo UTG? I raise stuff like KTo/QJ/QT/all PPs in LP
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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AJ/KQ UTG is a autoraise for me.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by jmontis
some of my stats are short handed, and it's pretty obvious when I don't need to call down (flop no pair etc)
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You fold too much.
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Fnord
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AJ/KQ UTG is a autoraise for me.
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At a 10 handed table I'm opening AT0 for a raise UTG+2.
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jmontis
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
AJ/KQ UTG is a autoraise for me.
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yea, i guess my UTG play is a little weak tight, other than that I'm a semi-LAG in ring/short handed
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by jmontis
other than that I'm a semi-LAG in ring/short handed
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LMAO
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jmontis
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other than that I'm a semi-LAG in ring/short handed
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LMAO

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you got me there. 19 PFR? sheesh
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Fnord
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I generally run around 14% PFR at a full table and 20% at 6 max. I ran very g00t that day. GAMB00L!!!
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jmontis
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I generally run around 14% PFR at a full table and 20% at 6 max. I ran very g00t that day. GAMB00L!!!
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I'm still learning limit, I basically switched over from NL straight to 1-2/2-4 a little over a month ago. So i'm still fixing a few things, but i'm on my way. Since I played NL for so long, I never had PT, so the stats were completely alien to me.
I'm starting to get an idea of how the stats should look for an average game, bare with me
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Fnord
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I'm starting to get an idea of how the stats should look for an average game, bare with me 
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I'm very aggro relative to many TAggs. I get away with raising so much because I'm selective about who I'm attacking and can play pretty well post-flop.
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Lidius
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So I should be calling down if I catch any piece, middle pair, bottom pair?
UTG, UTG+1 limp
I Raise KQo
1 callers behind
BB Calls
Flop AQ7 rainbow.
Lp UTG +1 leads. Call this down on the chance that noone is holding the Ace? dump it if i hit a raise? Plays differently if the hand is ATo
flop comes with a lower overcard QT3 rainbow.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by jmontis
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I generally run around 14% PFR at a full table and 20% at 6 max. I ran very g00t that day. GAMB00L!!!
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I'm still learning limit, I basically switched over from NL straight to 1-2/2-4 a little over a month ago. So i'm still fixing a few things, but i'm on my way. Since I played NL for so long, I never had PT, so the stats were completely alien to me.
I'm starting to get an idea of how the stats should look for an average game, bare with me :)
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I won't "bare" anything unless you're a girl :D
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Lidius
So I should be calling down if I catch any piece, middle pair, bottom pair?
UTG, UTG+1 limp
I Raise KQo
1 callers behind
BB Calls
Flop AQ7 rainbow.
Lp UTG +1 leads. Call this down on the chance that noone is holding the Ace? dump it if i hit a raise? Plays differently if the hand is ATo
flop comes with a lower overcard QT3 rainbow.
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Raise, the pot is big and UTG might fold a weak Ax he planned on check/raising. Often a lead into the PFR is something like bottom/middle pair in hopes you dump something like KQ or KK fearing the Ace.
I'm mostly refering to 6 max heads-up situations when it's a blind steal/defense. You need to draw to middle pair quite often to cut into the aggressor's profit from auto-betting the flop.
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jmontis
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thanks, I finally found some "weak" spots in my limit game.
I'll post some session stats when I'm done
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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