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Pulpstar

11-20-2005, 02:05 AM Post subject: First post and Hello ! 08 penny pot limit hand

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08 Hand of the night Pot limit - Discuss please:

PokerStars Game #3104332871: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/11/19 - 21:16:53 (ET)
Table 'Caecilia II' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Flynn ($3.59 in chips)
Seat 4: stormyeyesC ($12.73 in chips)
Seat 7: boknows442 ($2.69 in chips)
Seat 8: JMDA ($1.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Pulpstar ($5.93 in chips)
Flynn: posts small blind $0.01
stormyeyesC: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pulpstar [Qh Td Ah Ad]
boknows442: calls $0.02
Flynn said, "nice pot"
JMDA: calls $0.02
Pulpstar: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Flynn: folds
stormyeyesC: calls $0.04
boknows442: calls $0.04
JMDA: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 2s]
stormyeyesC: checks
boknows442: checks
Pulpstar: bets $0.21
stormyeyesC: raises $0.21 to $0.42
boknows442: calls $0.42
Pulpstar: raises $1.47 to $1.89
stormyeyesC: calls $1.47
boknows442: calls $1.47
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 2s] [Kh]
stormyeyesC: checks
boknows442: checks
Pulpstar: bets $3.98 and is all-in
stormyeyesC: calls $3.98
boknows442: calls $0.74 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ac Th 2s Kh] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stormyeyesC: shows [Ks Ts 9d 2c] (HI: two pair, Kings and Tens)
Pulpstar: shows [Qh Td Ah Ad] (HI: three of a kind, Aces)
JMDA said, "short handed O08 is a crap shoot gl all"
Pulpstar collected $6.13 from side pot
JMDA leaves the table
boknows442: mucks hand
Pulpstar collected $7.75 from main pot
No low hand qualified
boknows442 leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.58 Main pot $7.75. Side pot $6.13. | Rake $0.70
Board [Ac Th 2s Kh 8d]
Seat 1: Flynn (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: stormyeyesC (big blind) showed [Ks Ts 9d 2c] and lost with HI: two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 7: boknows442 mucked [2d As 9s Qs]
Seat 8: JMDA folded before Flop
Seat 9: Pulpstar (button) showed [Qh Td Ah Ad] and won ($13.88) with HI: three of a kind, Aces

Preflop

Raise to 6c - Reasoning I had a good Hi hand and the dealer button - I wanted to keep people in the pot though as Stormyeyes and boknows were very loose postflop.

Flop

My Aces have set ! Theres a lo card to keep some fish in maybe drawing to lo and my Ten has paired - this looks good but now I think about it , its one less out for a full house. - all in all a good flop. I'm going to bet it out anyhow.

Stormyeyes has reraised the pot ! And bok has called. I think maybe I'm even with something like J Q K 9 in equity here ? But Stormyeyes is very aggro and the other guy is quite loose. I wouldn't mind getting all my money in here to be honest.

Reraise max.

Both call :}

Turn : King hearts - Good card for me - gives me an IESD, a nut flush draw and I still have the nut full house draw. That must be alot of outs, even if I'm behind to a made straight (Which I doubt given these players).

Its good for all my chips ! Ok all in.

River blank. None of my outs hit :/ But the money slides my way

/

ok Now to check equity vs J Q K 9 which I think is the only hand beating me here postflop.

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 1086008 enumerated boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ad Td Ah Qh 759609 759609 325046 1353 0 0 0 0.700
Ks Jc 9c Qd 325046 325046 759609 1353 0 0 0 0.300

Ahead preflop. Well I have a good starting hand.

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 2s Ac Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ad Td Ah Qh 558 558 254 8 0 0 0 0.685
Ks Jc 9c Qd 254 254 558 8 0 0 0 0.315

Ahead postflop too !How nice.

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing 2s Ac Kh Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ad Td Ah Qh 16 16 22 2 0 0 0 0.425
Ks Jc 9c Qd 22 22 16 2 0 0 0 0.575

Ok I'm behind on the turn ! Maybe pushing is bad here - but fact was I didn't think either player had the made straight. Only a made straight should call though :S ? Maybe pushing is a bad move but I think they'll call no matter what - they like 2 pair !

Lets run their actual hands through stove though

Ad Td Ah Qh 0.494
As Qs 9s 2d 0.356
Ks Ts 2c 9d 0.150

Nice equity edge here.

Its worth a raise.

Post flop:

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing 2s Ac Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ad Td Ah Qh 612 612 43 11 0 0 0 0.927
As Qs 9s 2d 35 35 620 11 0 0 0 0.061
Ks Ts 2c 9d 8 8 658 0 0 0 0 0.012

Whoa ! Is it possible to get post flop edges like this in hold em and still get action ? 92 % !!

Stormy eyes has flopped 2 pair and she is 6% to win. This proves the point that 2 pair isn't so hot !

What the smeg is the other guy doing in the hand though lol.

Turn

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 36 enumerated boards containing 2s Ac Kh Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ad Td Ah Qh 33 33 0 3 0 0 0 0.958
As Qs 9s 2d 0 0 33 3 0 0 0 0.042
Ks Ts 2c 9d 0 0 36 0 0 0 0 0.000

One guy drawing dead and the other girl? on 4%. Thats a one outer. And she can only tie. Due to them both having two pair though its good for all their chips ! Only a jack can split the pot for me - I make that 4 outs to tie ? Oh well IESD to tie isn't so good on the river.

I think my play was good till the turn when I probably got carried away maybe. Hey I'm still drawing live vs the made broadway though so its ok.

The other player's play was very bad though luckily for me.

Morals : 2 pair is weak when someone is betting hard.
There probably could be a better hand out there beating you. Pretty sure my hand was the equity favourite vs anything on the flop though - not turn for sure.
Low limit o8 is full of fish.

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Pulpstar

11-20-2005, 11:08 AM

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I think a bad player would have lost alot of money with my hand here.

PokerStars Game #3098845939: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/11/19 - 07:48:23 (ET)
Table 'Gacrux' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: hsdsboss ($8.31 in chips)
Seat 2: Brian75758 ($3.38 in chips)
Seat 3: royboy2536 ($0.65 in chips)
Seat 5: HazeNH ($0.98 in chips)
Seat 6: sharkman9 ($4.42 in chips)
Seat 7: Pulpstar ($4.96 in chips)
Seat 8: luckytat2va ($2.42 in chips)
Seat 9: r0shamb0 ($0.57 in chips)
r0shamb0 said, "youre a moron haze"
Pulpstar: posts small blind $0.01
luckytat2va: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pulpstar [Ah 6d Qd 5h]
r0shamb0: calls $0.02
hsdsboss: folds
Brian75758: folds
royboy2536: calls $0.02
HazeNH: calls $0.02
sharkman9: calls $0.02
Pulpstar: calls $0.01
luckytat2va: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs Ad]
HazeNH said, "did u see my hand?"
r0shamb0 said, "did you see the board?"
Pulpstar: checks
r0shamb0 said, "trips meant squat with that board"
luckytat2va: bets $0.06
r0shamb0: calls $0.06
royboy2536: calls $0.06
HazeNH: calls $0.06
sharkman9: calls $0.06
Pulpstar: calls $0.06
*** TURN *** [5d Qs Ad] [Kh]
Pulpstar: checks
luckytat2va: checks
r0shamb0: checks
royboy2536: checks
HazeNH: checks
sharkman9: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d Qs Ad Kh] [Qh]
Pulpstar: checks
luckytat2va: checks
r0shamb0: checks
royboy2536: bets $0.20
HazeNH: folds
sharkman9: folds
Pulpstar: calls $0.20
luckytat2va: folds
r0shamb0: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
royboy2536: shows [6c As 5c Ac] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Queens)
Pulpstar: mucks hand
royboy2536 collected $0.88 from pot
No low hand qualified
Pulpstar said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.88 | Rake $0
Board [5d Qs Ad Kh Qh]
Seat 1: hsdsboss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Brian75758 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: royboy2536 showed [6c As 5c Ac] and won ($0.88) with HI: a full house, Aces full of Queens
Seat 5: HazeNH folded on the River
Seat 6: sharkman9 (button) folded on the River
Seat 7: Pulpstar (small blind) mucked [Ah 6d Qd 5h]
Seat 8: luckytat2va (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 9: r0shamb0 folded on the River

My thinking:

Preflop:

Hand is marginal preflop in the worst position, but I'm getting excellent odds. Its double suited too

I'll just have to be careful postflop.

Fish Preflop :

Ooh I have an ace preflop and a low card. I'll see that for 1c !

Flop:

Hmm 3 pair and no lo draw now. First to act - I'll check and see what happens.

All bet/call. OK I'm ahead here if an ace hits , 5 or queen hit I'm probably ahead. I'm calling because its cheap.

Turn:

Not the best card in the world. Check.

River :

Ok I've got a full but its an underfull.

AA is beating me and I'm not building the pot for AA, KK is also ahead. On the other hand I'm ahead of trip queens and also some other underfulls. I'm beating KQ and Q5. I'll check it and see if anyone else shows strength. ok 20c bet. Thast could mean any of the above hands including trip queens. I'll just call and see if I'm ahead. Call, lost the pot but was happy with my play.

Fish Preflop :

Ooh I have an ace preflop and a low card. I'll see that for 1c !

Fish flop:

Wowzers 3 pair, lets bet and raise

Fish turn :

King hmm - but I stillhave 3 pair 1!1!!!

Fish river : Wow a fullhouse - Raise and reraise baby. No lo too - scoop !

Basically I think a fish loses alot of money here with my hand

Also how would you guys play as Royboy - I think he should be more aggresive preflop, postflop - maybe not turn, and pot the river.

BR As at 24-10-06 1:57 AM $2222

Currently playing $50 NL hold em, $25 PL Omaha/$50 Omaha hi-lo, $15 SnGs
EPT Dublin played

lamaros

11-20-2005, 12:52 PM

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Posts: 346

Oh please, you push that river every single time.

I also bet the flop and turn.

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