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chardrian

06-21-2005, 12:36 AM Post subject: First orbit... did I do anything wrong??

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Hand #1 - I was gonna fold the turn but figured I'll show to show I don't raise with crap. Now with no read is the fold the right play here (which is what I wanted to do) - or do you still advocate the call to the end? This time with no reraise I was positive one of them had the K.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, A

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4

, 9

, K

(5 players)
SB bets $3 (All-In), BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) K

(5 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 3

(3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Hand 2
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, K

. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 5

, 2

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.66 BB) T

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

River: (6.66 BB) 8

(4 players)
BB bets, Hero folds, MP1 calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB

Hand 3
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

, T

.
6 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 6

, A

, 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) A

(2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (5 BB) 3

(2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Hand 4
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, 9

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T

, J

, 4

(4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q

(3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) 7

(3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Hand 5
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, J

.
4 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) A

, K

, J

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 3.16 BB

Hand 6
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9

, K

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (5.33 SB) J

, 4

, Q

(5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, CO folds, BB folds.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 7

(3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.16 BB) A

(3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

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Ayce

06-21-2005, 01:17 AM

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At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.

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06-21-2005, 02:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayce

At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.

You must be on drugs.

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06-21-2005, 02:03 AM

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Quote:

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At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.

You must be on drugs.

i would have to agree with fnord on this one...

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06-21-2005, 03:10 AM

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Crack, got to be. Mmmm, peanut butter and crack sandwiches.

And please use the converter next time.

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chardrian

06-21-2005, 04:36 AM

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Sorry about the converter. Didn't use it cuz I didn't have time to go through and change all the : to =. My computer is slow so playing two games at once and posting that was hard enough. But gotta agree about the drugs.

Now 5 max 10/20 on the other hand on paradise, is basically just a bluff fest - I'm still unsure what the theory is at that game, but damn people protect their blinds as if they were that last hit of junkie's smack.

chardrian

06-21-2005, 01:53 PM

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Ok it's been edited with the converter.

Am I correct that my mistake in all of these was not looking at the pot when I was chasing? Hands 4 and 6 especially - fold on flop was the right move??

Or 7-8 outs ok to call the flop and try to get my K T or club (to go for runner runner) on hand 6?

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06-21-2005, 02:09 PM

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Hand 2: Bet the turn
Hand 4: fold the flop, between the draws and 2 overcards you will get beat by SB or UTG+1 at showdown too often. Also, consider that you're drawing to the sucker one-off broadway straight. A great hand to pay someone off with.

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06-21-2005, 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayce

At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.

You must be on drugs.

i second that.

when i play 3/6, i call down with middle pair alot and win. its mecca for bluffing.

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chardrian

06-21-2005, 06:43 PM

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Yeah hand 4 was dumb - I was tilting/forgetting I wasn't at a 5 player max table.

Hand 2 - why bet the turn? 6 outs not bad/maybe winning hand? If I bet out do i fold to a raise? If I just get called do I bet an empty river as well?

Hand 6 - ok how I played or too loose?

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06-21-2005, 06:47 PM

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Hand 2 - why bet the turn? 6 outs not bad/maybe winning hand? If I bet out do i fold to a raise? If I just get called do I bet an empty river as well?

You might have the best hand, they might fold and you might catch up. The union of those says bet and fold to a raise.

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Hand 6 - ok how I played or too loose?

The pre-flop call is a little loose, but I gave up being a pre-flop Nazi long ago. It really depends on how well you think you play compared to the lemmings. Post-flop the flop call is kinda loose, but the backdoor flush + over gives you enough extra to make it. Meh.

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