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09-15-2004, 04:03 AM
Post subject: First LHE session on PokerStars
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Well, after playing for about 5 hours today and clost to 500 hands on two tables, these are the numbers i came up with:
On the .10/.25 table on Pokerstars
Saw the flop 31% of the time, averaging 2BB/100 hands, only about $2.75 in profit.
I play all Ax Suited, Kx suited, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ, QJ, J10 sometimes, some suited connectors, all pocket pairs, and raise with AK, AQ, and reraise with AA,KK,QQ. Sound Good?
Thats actually pretty good considering at one point i was down about $15 or more at one point and crawled my way back. I lost four big hands in a row, starting at the .05/.10 at Royal Vegas NL table I bet $1 with KK and was reraised all in with A 8 spades and the punk hit both an Ace and an 8. After that I decided to switch to PokerStars. Next three hands were AA, KK, and QQ and the only one that I didnt lose was QQ b/c everyone folded on the turn.
May have to play a bunch more tomorrow, maybe i'll hang around here for a while and eventually move up to higher stakes. Not AS many fish as Party/Empire but when you re-raise preflop with AQ and AK6 is on the board and someone is calling you down to the river with a J-6 and gets a 6 on the river its just frustrating.
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09-15-2004, 04:13 AM
Post subject: Re: First LHE session on PokerStars
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I play all Ax Suited, Kx suited, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ, QJ, J10 sometimes, some suited connectors, all pocket pairs, and raise with AK, AQ, and reraise with AA,KK,QQ. Sound Good?
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Too LooPy. Partiularly when facing a raise. Use SSH's tight starting hands and work from there.
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You are going to have to explain the lingo. Unfortunately 'LooPy' is not a term in the lingo section here on the forum.
Secondly, telling me to consult SSE's tight starting hands and work from there doesn't do me too much good concidering I am aware of which hands are 'The best' and 'The worst' and in a low stakes LHE game most people will raise with an Ace in hand, or even worse, any face card.
In any limit game you dont play pocket pairs or two face cards? If there are 2-3 raises behind me you dont necessarily call with Kx suited but depending on your cards a call could be made with an Ax suited.
And, with a lot of people in the flop dont suited connectors give you high +EV?
I can see where calling a raise with QJ wouldnt be effective, let alone J10 and definately not Q10, unless they were suited. I don't play K10 unless I'm in the small blind. But why fold a semi-good hand like KJ or KQ to only one raise on low-limit stakes? Especially when people consistantly play any Face card and raise with junk like Q10 offsuited, it just doesnt make sense.
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LooPy - Loose/Passive. Plays too many hands and doesn't push edges.
I can't even go into where you're wrong in one paragraph...
...although playing like that you could go as high as 2/4 or 3/6 before running into trouble...
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Thanks for the language help, but other than that you aren't being too useful....especially for a 'beginners forum.'
If i understand you, or try to understand, what you are telling me, you say raise with all those hands preflop? There isn't much worse than being on the button with AK and raising it and then still have 7 callers, the raise did no good, you are just raising money that you will more than likely lose with all those callers. I can only imagine what it would be like with KQ or KJ.
And I do raise and re-raise with top pair and top kicker post flop and again if turn looks good.
When facing a raise you suggest fold everything but the top few hands? or are you saying raise back?
You are rather unclear in what you are saying, and if I am wrong, please correct me.
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I think what fnord is trying to say is that in limit hold'em, You are right. There are gonna be callers all over the place. But you have to make them pay for playing bad cards. And if you can go into the turn on top you make them pay some more in case they wanna chase.
I know any two cards can win. And I know people will play just about anything in limit. So the variances are wider depending on the table you're at. I mean realistically, if you want people to respect a raise. The .10/.25 table is not the place to play.
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I think for the stakes you are playing your hand selection is ok. I would suggest however that you try to tighten up your openers the closer you get to UTG (The 1st player past the blinds who is first to act post flop). I'd also drop the JTo unless you are one of the last to act, that hand is very over-rated IMO.
Try to become more aware of position when you play, at first it doesn't seem worthwhile but its one of the most important concepts in holdem. The risk of being raised with marginal cards gets higher the closer to UTG you are and most of the starting hands are a fold to a raise/re-raise.
It might sound too tight, and it might sound boring but it will help condition you for the higher limits.
Also how much knoledge to you have about bankroll management ? It's one of the most important concepts to know to be a successful limit player.
Hope this helps.
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Cryptkeeper!!!
who is this jackass anyway.....
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Why are you going from 5/10 to .10/.25??????
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I rock. thanks, im new.
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Why are you going from 5/10 to .10/.25??????
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Didn't you see the varianced-thread? Hehehe 
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oh you got varianced a few times. I see....it happens to the best of them
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.....you did see the first date of this thread right?
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.....you did see the first date of this thread right?
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...so since September you've gone from not knowing some of the terms to aiming for 20k in a year?
Don't give a newbie false hope!
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LOL no I didn't.................DOH
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haha....PWNT.
And, I was the biggest newb with the largest attitude with the smallest stack to be found. If I could convert, believe me, anyone can.
Damn you fnord.....4 months later and you still right. One day...
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LOL no I didn't.................DOH
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Eheheehee 
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speakin about posts from the past....check this one out
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=2122
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Who bumped this thread? the post is gone, unless it was eclipse, which I doubt. Ha it was good for a laugh. I like yours as well hyper.
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05-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Post subject: Re: First LHE session on [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/R
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I play all Ax Suited, Kx suited, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ, QJ, J10 sometimes, some suited connectors, all pocket pairs, and raise with AK, AQ, and reraise with AA,KK,QQ. Sound Good?
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Hard to argue with your results, so sounds good to me.
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05-23-2007, 06:43 PM
Post subject: Re: First LHE session on [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/R
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I play all Ax Suited, Kx suited, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ, QJ, J10 sometimes, some suited connectors, all pocket pairs, and raise with AK, AQ, and reraise with AA,KK,QQ. Sound Good?
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Hard to argue with your results, so sounds good to me. |
oh no you didn't
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i LOLed
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Dude...this thread was so old I actually was noobish enough to receive emails whenever someone posted...
so stop posting!!!
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ninja email
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Dude...this thread was so old I actually was noobish enough to receive emails whenever someone posted...
so stop posting!!!
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now i'm curious what you edited in the OP
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rofl. classic thread.
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