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ihategnomes
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02-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Post subject: Filter for continuation bet spewing
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Full House
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Blind status not a blind
Preflop raise - Any Raise
Action on flop Bet
showdown Folded to river bet / Folded before showdown ( Try both )
Would this take care of it you think?
I think I am completely spewing after I do not hit the flop and I am trying to tame that beast.
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dsaxton
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What?
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midas06
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I think he's programming his bot...
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ihategnomes
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Full House
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Sorry I wasnt clear, this would be filtering options in pokertracker. Doesnt anyone ever filter for leaks?
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Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
<Bbickes> i still wanna know if the thing in your avatar is a real chick or not
<Bbickes> or am i e-crushing a dude
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Nehmer
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Full House
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The problem is this doesn't take into consideration the fact that you often get people to fold with continuation bets or pick up top pair on the turn/river. If you only look at the hands that you lose with continuation bets of course it looks like a major leak
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Yeah I think if you switched this to "saw showdown" you'd get a bigger picture.
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Demiparadigm
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
The problem is this doesn't take into consideration the fact that you often get people to fold with continuation bets or pick up top pair on the turn/river. If you only look at the hands that you lose with continuation bets of course it looks like a major leak 
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This is the most important, and the first thing I thought of. If you are only looking at hands you folded on the river you will have a whole bunch of hands that you lost a lot of money on, without looking at the ones you actually won.
Also, against observant opponents you need to play consistently after a preflop raise to prevent yourself from being transparent. If you are for example only betting top pair or better after a PFR, your opponent will always know where he is at, and be able to play perfectly against you post flop. This means sometimes you will bet and wind up folding on later streets.
To filter for continuation bets you would have to just filter
blind status: doesn't matter
preflop action: raise
flop action: bet
Then look through those hands (especially the ones in red) for any leaks that you may have.
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