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mike4066
Old 11-08-2004, 08:52 PM     Post subject: Few hands for review.. #1 (permalink)  
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I've been struggling lately, barely making a profit. I'm gone into play back mode and keep coming across hands I think I F'd up in one way or another. Some of these I won some I lost, I don't believe the outcome is as important as the play.

Hand #1 No read on the SB.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K. MP posts a blind of $0.5. UTG posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG (poster) checks, MP (poster) checks, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 7, 9, 4 (5 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP folds.

River: (8.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Main Pot: 10.50 BB, between Hero and SB.

Loose call on the flop or big enough pot to cover it?






Hand #2 Typical Party fish.
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Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) J, 7, 9 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) T (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (9.75 BB) T (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB
Main Pot: 17.75 BB, between UTG and UTG+1.

3bet worries me, not sure if the guy would ram his draw or not. Could be a set/2 pair? They check the flop to me, Should I have bet out, or be worried about the check/raise?
At this point I'm just thinking cheap showdown, am I wrong? The river fold was pretty easy for me.



Hand #3 3 fish and a maniac....
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, T. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP2 folds, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, SB 3-bets, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero caps, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (22 SB) 2, 4, Q (5 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (19 BB) 7 (4 players)
SB calls $0.50 (All-In), UTG calls, Hero raises, Button calls, UTG calls.

River: (24 BB) 9 (4 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 24 BB
Main Pot: 21 BB, between Hero, Button, SB and UTG.
Pot 2: 3 BB, between Hero, Button and UTG.

3 loose fish who call EVERYTHING! I'm trying to ram the hell outta my draw. Should I cap them?



Hand #4... typical loose table, 3 fish behind, flops are usually 5 way.
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9, A.
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 2, 3, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) J (2 players)
BB bets, Hero....

Small pot, call or fold? Don't know if I'm good often enough to call.




Hand #5
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T, T.
UTG folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) K, K, 5 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 folds, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ....

am I still good or should i check behind?


Hand #6 UTG = typical loose fish, no real read on his aggression though.
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2, 8, K (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (6 BB) K (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises

Too aggressive to raise on this turn?
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Old 11-08-2004, 09:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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1: I play it the same
2: Bet the turn, you have TPTK w/ a nut flush redraw and 2 callers.
3: Looks fine. Sometimes it just doesn't come. Maybe call the turn.
4: I cry and call, if only to avoid being bluffed at.
5: Depends on your opponent. Against an aggro/tricky opponent check then call the river. Against a passive one bet/fold the turn planning to check behind on the river.
6: Tough spot. You must fold to a 3-bet and check behind on the river if you run this line. I prefer calling or folding.
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Old 11-08-2004, 10:27 PM #3 (permalink)  
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minor opinion differences from a minor player:

4) I think you might be better off folding EVEN if it's a bluff (unlikely - he looks like he has jacks). Next time you are up against a calling station who has nothing, maybe he bets the river and you have a hand to raise with. Obviously if he' s shown any level of aggression, you should call.
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Old 11-08-2004, 10:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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4) I think you might be better off folding EVEN if it's a bluff (unlikely - he looks like he has jacks). Next time you are up against a calling station who has nothing, maybe he bets the river and you have a hand to raise with. Obviously if he' s shown any level of aggression, you should call.
It's hard to make up for the mistake of folding the best hand for a single bet on the river in later hands. I'd rather bias towards the smaller mistake.
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:19 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand #2, after looking back I should have bet the turn. I do usually bet the turn if I pickup the nut flush draw on the turn like this.

hand #3
If there were still alot of people with $ in the pot would you still raise, or do you stop jamming a draw on the flop?

hand #4
Yes, I called.

Hand #5
I checked the turn, called his bet on the river.

Hand #6
They both called the bet. The SB bet out on the river blank card. He only had 1/2 bet left so I called as did the other player.
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:24 PM #6 (permalink)  
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It's hard to make up for the mistake of folding the best hand for a single bet on the river in later hands. I'd rather bias towards the smaller mistake.
Folding the winning hand on the river tilts me faster than anything..

I go from 0 to TILT faster than I can throw my stress ball at the cat!
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Old 11-09-2004, 12:46 AM #7 (permalink)  
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hand #3
If there were still alot of people with $ in the pot would you still raise, or do you stop jamming a draw on the flop?
Stop jamming on the turn with just a busted flush + over and shift to implied odds or a semi-bluff. You can't semi-bluff a protected pot so...
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