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Shotfrog
Old 02-23-2005, 08:35 PM     Post subject: A few hands from last night #1 (permalink)  

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I've got a little spare time at work, so I'm going through last night's hands. Bear in mind I was playing with a bunch of FTR dudes who bought in with as much as $250, so this wasn't your typical .02/.04 table.

This shows the sort of hand I just find impossible to lay down. It seems like it could be so strong, but hardly ever is. Obviously everything is situational, but what are some guidelines for playing a hand like this?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T, A.
UTG raises, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J, 8, T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Button 3-bets, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG caps, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 2 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG 3-bets, Button caps, UTG calls.

River: (20 BB) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets, Button raises, UTG 3-bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 26 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Button has Jd Kc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins 26 BB.
Winner didn't even know it was a pie-eating contest
 
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:43 PM #2 (permalink)  

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When was the best time to stop pursuing this, and how would I have known? I know each hand is hermetic, but it's hard to put aside recent memories of people winning with Ace high or worse.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J.
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K, K, Q (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has As Jd (one pair, kings).
BB has Ah 9h (two pair, kings and nines).
Outcome: BB wins 9.25 BB.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:50 PM #3 (permalink)  

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Chasing, or solid play?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, K.
UTG calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6, A, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: (3 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (5 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has 7h 8s (straight, nine high).
Hero has 3s Ks (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 13 BB.

Also, UTG in this hand was TylerK, which I think makes it a great play.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:57 PM #4 (permalink)  

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It does seem like every time I have trips, someone has a straight; every time I have a straight, someone has a flush; every time I have a flush, etc. You get the picture. Fail-safe point here?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, A.
Hero raises, MP 3-bets, 3 folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) T, 9, T (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, BB calls, Hero caps, MP calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, BB calls.

River: (12.75 BB) Q (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ts As (three of a kind, tens).
MP has Kd Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP wins 17.75 BB.

As you can see, I called rather than capped on the river, but...
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Full table I fold pre-flop. Easy flop fold.
Hand 2: The river bet is horrible, you beat a bluff or busted draw so take the showdown you bought on the turn.
Hand 3: I play it the same. It's not chasing when you're betting.
Hand 4: I sometimes call the flop 3-bet so I can pop the turn. River is interesting, reads would help.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:40 AM #6 (permalink)  
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hand 1: fold the flop without a second thought.
hand 2: fold or raise the flop.
hand 3: well played
hand 4: call the river. any 4 flush or 4 to a straight and it's likely someone has it (especially since they are betting into you)
 
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:05 PM #7 (permalink)  

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Hand 4: I sometimes call the flop 3-bet so I can pop the turn. River is interesting, reads would help.
Well, at that point the table was full of FTR guys who bet and raised every hand they were dealt, so I couldn't say for sure what anybody had.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:07 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Also, UTG in this hand was TylerK, which I think makes it a great play
I agree 100%


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Old 02-24-2005, 08:46 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Also, UTG in this hand was TylerK, which I think makes it a great play
I agree 100%
LOL

I was going to raise the turn but I figured you'd fold where I could probably get one more bet out of you on the river...damnit!
TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
 
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