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Ltrain
Old 08-20-2005, 06:56 PM     Post subject: A few hands for comment #1 (permalink)  
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#1 3Bet Flop or smooth call to keep UTG in the hand (just sat down)?


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Preflop: Hero is CO with J, 6. MP posts a blind of $2. Hero posts a blind of $2. UTG posts a blind of $2.
UTG (poster) checks, MP (poster) checks, Hero (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) T, J, Q (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Hero 3-bets...
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#2 Would you fold or calldown? (2nd orbit, no reads yet)

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 8, T, 5 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls

Turn: (7.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises...
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#3 Do you agree with the fold? (CO is a LAP)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 8.
UTG calls, 3 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG folds, CO caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9, A, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds.
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Old 08-20-2005, 08:02 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i like #1

I don't like #2, pocket 5s or 8s for the button. maybe 8T

#3 is tough, there's a small chance your 8 high draw might be good here. You're at least 42:57 to win against a pair of aces with no heart draw.
take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
 
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Old 08-20-2005, 09:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1: you need the flush to win. call and hope others come along.
hand 2: too aggressive. call the 3bet and see what the turn brings. (fold the turn how you played)
hand 3: fold the turn UI.
 
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I'm just calling here. Your J and 6 outs might not be good, so you are mostly drawing to the flush and wanna make sure you keep the action multiway.

Hand 2: I play it the same as you and then just call down. You are more likely to be getting 3-bet by JT, QT, J9, A8, or something along those lines than a set or AT, so I think the flop cap and turn lead are good, but once he raises the turn, it shows he probably has a hand and you should just call down and hope he was overplaying the straight draw.

Hand 3: I think I would try a check raise on this flop and see how he reacts. The way you play it, I'd call the flop raise and fold the turn unimproved.
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:16 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Some ideas to keep the discussion interesting:

Hand 1. My thought at the time was to raise and try to get a free card on the turn. Was this a bad play facing a bet and raise?

Hand 2. I called it down thinking a smaller kicker on a rainbow board and the Button had trip 5's (good call Jmontis). Looking back if I was going to call it down, I should have slowed down after the 3 bet and checked/called the Turn and River. Has anyone called down in this situation with different results they could post?

Hand 3. I thought of calling the flop raise and folding unimproved, but if I improved, what was I going to improve to? I am likely behind the most realistic hand is the flush with my 8. Since the CO LAP is likely holding A,?, I have to weigh if the second card is a heart, will my 8 hold up, and do I want to invest $10 to find out. Thoughts?
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