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feed the rake and hope i'm playing against a maniac

  
 
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Old 05-27-2005, 11:17 PM     Post subject: feed the rake and hope i'm playing against a maniac #1 (permalink)  
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this hand is dumb. period. i was thinking 'of course he has the other queen, lets stop feeding the rake.' in doing this, i missed out on value. have you guys ever done something like this before (but maybe not have regretted it like i do). when he raised on the river i was thinking "now hes making me pay more rake and i dont like it. raise!!". but THEN when he 3 bet i was certain he had the queen, and i refused to pay more rake. ev + or -?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q. MP3 posts a blind of $2. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) J, J, Q (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) Q (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Qh (full house, queens full of jacks).
UTG+1 has Jh 8d (full house, jacks full of queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 17.25 BB.
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:23 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Wasn't the rake already maxed when you acted last on the river?
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:42 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeh, I think the rake was capped when the pot hit 60.00. You shoulda reraised for sure.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:47 AM #4 (permalink)  
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yes. another reason i feel like an idiot.
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:45 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Even if there is a TJQK on the board, and I have the A, I am raising regardless of me knowing he has an A also. Even if it's a split, you're out $1.50 which is covered by whatever dead money was already in the pot
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:50 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Never slow down with the nuts assuming a split.
 
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:13 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I raise preflop too.

3-bet the turn, you didn't get enough bets in on the last two streets.
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Old 05-28-2005, 04:17 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Preflop is goot, 3-bet turn.

Edit: NM that's what phyl just said
TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
 
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