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elipsesjeff

12-21-2004, 09:26 PM Post subject: Failure to Protect the hand

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Was I just lucky? or did I have the correct odds to call?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T

, Q

. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero (poster) checks, CO folds, Button raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 4

, J

, 5

(6 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) A

(6 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.75 BB) K

(5 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

Results in white below:
MP1 has Ac 3s (one pair, aces).
MP2 has 5s 2s (one pair, fives).
Hero has Tc Qh (straight, ace high).
Button has Ad Kc (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 18.75 BB.

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12-21-2004, 09:57 PM

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interesting hand history...looks like the button's only time to protect his hand was on the river, which i have no clue why he didn't raise unless he was some kinda mind reader knowing you have QT

LeFou

12-21-2004, 10:04 PM

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on a rough mental estimate i calculate that you need about 12 to 1 to call a gutshot at the turn.

This is based on the fact that you need about 6 to 1 to call an OES. Looks like you have it, 9.75 a bet and three calls before you.

elipsesjeff

12-21-2004, 10:15 PM

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With Implied odds involved, its actually less than 10.5-1 to call a gutshot on the turn. I was getting 14-1 to call.

My main question was is this plausable on the flop to call this bet with only the possibility of hitting runner runner straight? I was getting 19-1 to call the flop bet.

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