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04-30-2005, 06:08 PM
Post subject: The face card game.
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I found myself playing WAY too loosely (35-40% of the flops), so I decided to start playing this "game" to tighten myself up.
Here is a strategy that is working well for me at 6max low limit (I'm playing $1/2) when everyone will call everything, and pre flop raises don't tend to knock anyone out.
Its called The Face Card Game.
There are very few rules.
1) Raise any two face cards.
2) Call suited connectors with position ONLY.
3) You may NOT call the SB without, at the least, something suited.
4) Pre flop raises in front of you, raise with face cards, fold otherwise.
Any thoughts?[/b]
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not sure how well that works in a 6 max game, i only play 10 max.
youll get slaughtered on the 10 max with that startegy.
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04-30-2005, 06:10 PM
Post subject: Re: The face card game.
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I found myself playing WAY too loosely (35-40% of the flops), so I decided to start playing this "game" to tighten myself up.
Here is a strategy that is working well for me at 6max low limit (I'm playing $1/2) when everyone will call everything, and pre flop raises don't tend to knock anyone out.
Its called The Face Card Game.
There are very few rules.
1) Raise any two face cards.
2) Call suited connectors with position ONLY.
3) You may NOT call the SB without, at the least, something suited.
4) Pre flop raises in front of you, raise with face cards, fold otherwise.
Any thoughts?[/b]
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Wouldn't it be easier to just learn to play real poker?
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Element187
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04-30-2005, 06:11 PM
Post subject: Re: The face card game.
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I found myself playing WAY too loosely (35-40% of the flops), so I decided to start playing this "game" to tighten myself up.
Here is a strategy that is working well for me at 6max low limit (I'm playing $1/2) when everyone will call everything, and pre flop raises don't tend to knock anyone out.
Its called The Face Card Game.
There are very few rules.
1) Raise any two face cards.
2) Call suited connectors with position ONLY.
3) You may NOT call the SB without, at the least, something suited.
4) Pre flop raises in front of you, raise with face cards, fold otherwise.
Any thoughts?[/b]
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Wouldn't it be easier to just learn to play real poker? |
nonsense, its a pain in the ass reading 3 david sklansky books  
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euphoricism
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Laugh yes, yes, I can play "real" poker, this is just my way of getting myself from making those pesky A9 calls that seem to burn me so often.
Further, "real" poker seems to have little effect especially pre-flop at these limits. No one folds. If you raise from the button, everyone just figures, "Eh, its only 1 more dollar, im already half in!".
Maybe its my combination of knowing real poker as well as these guidelines thats keeping me +EV.
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I love players who raise KTo from any position. You do realize that in a 5+ way pot you're getting the worst of it, right?
In a true loosy goosey no fold'em game I'm limping KQo, AJo and ATo as well.
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Maybe its my combination of knowing real poker as well as these guidelines thats keeping me +EV.
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If you're beating your game, then you're leaving a lot of money on the table.
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Fair point, but a 5+ raised pot is not wholly common at 6 max.. Its usually about three-four people, where I would still raise pre flop with KTo.
In a 5 way pot, KTo from early is pretty easy. Most any cards early in 6max are pretty easy, maybe I should add that in. I really dislike playing from early position. I think it was hyper's stickied post that said you're expected to lose from the blinds, just try and limit how much you lose.
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If you're beating your game, then you're leaving a lot of money on the table.
Can you expand on that?
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Meh 6 max. ok, I'll shut the fuck up now. I never was able to beat the 1/2 6max rake, although that was a while ago, I played about 10k hands and the rake there is INSANE. However, I did hit up 5/10 6 max for a big chunk of change. The game is too swingy and silly-aggro to be much fun for me.
Still layoff the offsuit tens from the first 2 positions and be selective about who + what to 3-bet with. Pairs make MUCH better 3-bet hands if you're going to pick on someone.
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Duly noted. Thank you.
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point 1: standard in most shorthanded games. some weaker hands like KTo and QTo should be mucked early position should be mucked in some games, raised in other games
point 2: um...no. you're disregarding fold equity in blind steals, how many people are in the pot, how many people you expect to be in the pot.
point 3: no regard for blind structure
point 4: it depends. AJ is not a standard 3betting hand, but it is a situation dependent 3betting hand.
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I've never once stolen a blind in 1/2 6max. Ive only even seen it once or twice. People just don't let go of hands that much.
No regard for blind structure, well, i said it was for 1/2 6max..
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if you've never stolen a blind, then you either don't steal enough, or you don't pick your spots correct often enough.
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i think i blind steal too much... it just turns into a game who can handle more raising.
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It's not just stealing. 2 pretty good cards + position against a bad player should be +EV. It doesn't have to be a pissing match, you can take 4 card flops, etc.
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Since we're bumping threads and all, I still think this single thread was the turning point in my "career".
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