Originally Posted by trikflow77

where is the guide, i need to learn how to play poker????

Originally Posted by trikflow77

The question is....was writing this guide +EV?

Originally Posted by trikflow77

The question is....was writing this guide +EV?

Originally Posted by ChezJ

i think it would be useful to explain the mathematical reasoning behind pumping your strong draws. it is +EV in the long run because the big pots you win (about 1 out of 3 if you flop a 4-flush/OESD) after betting on the come more than make up for the extra chips you lose when you pump and miss (about 2 out of 3).

once you understand the math, then it becomes clear that you can't just pump your draws sometimes and not other times. you have to do it consistently, every time, so that when you hit, the pot is as big as possible to make up for all your prior misses. the worst thing is to pump 2 out of 3 draws and then wimp out on the third one which hits but only pays a little, leaving you at a net loss.

also, it is important to note that when the pot is not multiway, the math does not necessarily support betting on the come. your bets are no longer being multiplied 4x or 5x to build a huge pot. for example, if you are heads up, i don't think it works out in your favor to cap the flop on a draw. you are only getting 1:1 on your bets, plus a little more if there's dead money in the pot. in such cases, you should still bet out -- but only as a semibluff, to try and take down the pot. or you raise with position IF you think you can get a free card on the turn. otherwise, just call.

ChezJ

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

1) If you are going to check and then call his bet if he does bet, then it is better for you to bet out. As I explained, the probability of him raising is less than that of him calling. Combine that with the probability that he checks behind and it is more profitable to bet out. Also, some real weak-tight opponents will fold automatically with no heart.

Thus, by betting out you allow yourself to put the most money in when you are ahead.

2) If they are going to fold to your bet, then most likely they are going to fold to another person's bet. Like I also said, you want to win the pot BEFORE your draw actually hits. Thats a good thing. You are also responsible for building your own pots. You cant complain about not winning large pots if and when you dont bet out yourself and ram and jam.

Originally Posted by hypermegachi

Clarkmeister's Theorem.

Conditions:
1) you are out of position
2) the river is the 4th flush card

What to do:
bet with the intention of folding to a raise

Reasons:
- the 4th flush card will slow anyone down
- if they raise, they beat you. no one would bluff raise this.
- if you check, they will bluff and you must call.
- if you bet, they might make the incorrect fold.