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Elipsesjeff Vegas Report, Summer 2006
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07-07-2006, 07:10 AM
Post subject: Elipsesjeff Vegas Report, Summer 2006
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Elipsesjeff Summer Vegas Trip
Before I begin, I would like to thank FTR for such a great time again and I owe them my gratitude. If it wasn’t for FTR I would not be the person or poker player I am today; I hope to always be around FTR as long as I am a poker player.
Wednesday
Got into Vegas around 10 am or so, didn’t get to the hotel until Noon and went directly next door to get some FTR gear and shoot the shit with Xianti. It took me like 30 minutes to find the poker room (I should say Poker auditorium as it was monstrous) because it was like a half-mile walk just to get there. Anyway, got some food and immediately sat down at the 20/40 game. The games were awesome to say the least, so much so I saw no reason to spend the cab fair and head to the 30/60 game at the Wynn. I know my win-rate was at least 1.5 bb/hour at that 20/40 game as long as I played good enough, whereas I could probably win the same at the 30/60 game. Anyway, I really don’t remember anything TOO horrible going on, except there was only one pot that was monstrous and it was the pot of the day. I have QTo in LP and limp after 3 limpers, SB raises and we have a 6 way raised pot on our hands. I flop the double gutter, Ac Jd 8c and I have the Queen of clubs. Small blind bets and gets raised from UTG and I call two as it folds around to me. Small blind 3-bets and we plain call. The turn is the Ten of clubs and I think to myself, if UTG raises I am pretty sure he has the flush and I can get out, otherwise there is still a strong possibility my queen of clubs is still good as well. Well, SB bets again and UTG and myself call as I pray for one of my 15 (possibly 17 if my T is good) outs. I brick as the river brings another Ace so I fold. Small blind had boat of jacks full versus UTG’s A9, no one had a club so my OESFD bricked in what ended up being close to an $800 pot. That was pretty much Wednesday, I played for 6 hours went for a dinner break and slept for like 11 hours as it had been a long day. Finished up like $260, quite average at 6.5 BB.
Thursday
Tournament: Unfortunately, there isn’t much to say here as the structure itself meant you had to get lucky early or get out. Well, I wasn’t. As can be seen from the picture in this link: http://www.cardplayer.com/tournament...93?show=photos number 46, I had Joe Sebok on my right, although at the time I had no idea who he is. Every 5 minutes a new hottie came up and said high to him and everyone was taking his picture and whatnot and I’m still confused, but he was decked out in Full Tilt gear. Anyway, he had a buddy with him that sat on his right and they were talking, it wasn’t until his buddy was like “who’s son are you again?” and Sebok was like “Barry Greenstein” and his buddy said “ah, yeah, that’s right.” The way his buddy asked the question was that he knew but he wanted everyone else to know at the table too. Not that I care because frankly, I don’t.
To my left I had an arrogant European guy, probably a pro who kept asking me shit about my FTR gear, like “how do they know I’m wearing it” and I’m like “you’re an idiot” but anyway. The guy to his left had won a bracelet at Tunica for some event or another, netting like 110k or something he said a few years back but otherwise, the rest of the table were donks.
First decent hand I get dealt is AJo and Sebok (hereby referred to as The Tool) raises to my right, I 3-bet him as we both are in like middle position and if he as pro-ish as he should be then my raise is correct. He caps me and I’m like “okay” and here we go. As the flop comes I’m just staring at him, waiting for his action, I really don’t care what the flop is at this point only what his action. He’s either got a hand or he doesn’t is my opinion. Well, before I look at the flop he checks to me, I look down, see a king, I bet out and he folds. What kind of guy raises/caps preflop then check/folds the flop? I’m at 1700 in Chips with blinds still 25/25 and starting stacks 1500.
Next decent hand I get is KTs from MP, I open raise it and get three/bet by the Tunica bracelet winner. Now, again if he is as pro as he is (whatever that’s supposed to mean) his range is 66+ to KQo+ to AJo+. Anyway, the Flop is KQ7 and I donk it into him, I really would like to know where I am and he flat calls. Is he slow rolling me or just peeling one? Find out soon enough I guess. Anyway, the Turn is another King and I check it to him seeing what he does and he donks it out and I check/raise him. He folds and shows 88. Thanks for the extra 200 chips. I should be close to 1800 now after the blinds but that is the highest I would ever get. I get blinded down some and get AKs and 3bet my buddy The Tool and he’s like “that’s the 2nd time you did that to me” and I say “that’s because you keep raising with trash” and we see the flop. He check/folds to me on the flop and that’s all I would run into him for almost a full 2 hours.
I would get other marginal hands, 77, KQ, AT, all would brick and I would have to make decent folds. One hand I get ATo in the BB and call a raise and a coldcaller. I really didn’t want to see the ace hit as much as I would like to have the Ten but on a board of AQ9 its close. I donk into him and he puts in the complimentary continuation-raise to fold the guy behind him. Which, is really the sign I was looking for as my read was he wasn’t afraid of the Ace and my kicker sucked ass. I call his raise and the Turn is a 7 and I look at my hand and realize even if I had been a close ahead the likelihood of my kicker being any good is pretty bad so I check/folded the turn. Looking back a few days later, maybe I should have 3 bet the flop and go from there but in reality I still could have been alive. In a cash game I don’t make this fold but tournament is completely different.
Next hand I get is A8s and open raise it up from MP3. BB calls and I flop an Ace. I get donked into and I just call the flop bet, as there are no draws out there and its pretty harmless. She checks to me on the turn and I bet, she calls and we see the river. Now, my thinking is why did she call the turn bet if she didn’t have an Ace? My kicker isn’t the greatest, so, I checked behind the river and she showed A8 and we chop it up. I’m still at like 1400 chips probably at this point and I haven’t won a hand at showdown yet. Anyway, next hand I get is 88 and shortstack reraises me and I call. The flop comes 5 high and he goes all in for like another 100 chips. He flips over 99 and I don’t improve and he saved my ass a lot of chips. Well, at this point we are getting towards the first break and I finish up with 1000 chips with the blinds starting at 50/100, with 200 chips as the big bet; I’m pretty shortstacked.
First hand back from the break I wake up with AA and win like 500 Chips as they fold the turn so I’m back to starting stack, and, I’m not too sad. A couple rotations later and I’m at like 1300 chips and I get dealt a hand in the BB and it folds to The Tool. Now, let me go on how The Tool has gotten his 3-4k chip stack. First off, on a Ten high board he raises 55 and turns his two outer to get paid. He then raised K2s UTG and turns a 3rd deuce to knock out a guy who was all in. Then he limped 53s UTG, flopped bottom pair, turned a gutshot and rivered his kicker to win that hand. Man, he’s awesome am I right? Meanwhile, he’s said for the second time that he’s Greenstein’s son, and again I really don’t care.
Anyway, I get dealt AQo in the BB and the blinds are going to be going up in about 10 minutes or so and I know I’m going to need some help. Well, it folds to the Tool in the SB who raises, I 3bet and he caps me. Okay, I’ve seen this before lets go. Flop is QT4 all hearts, and I have no heart. He bets and I call, hoping for no heart on the turn. Well, what would you know there was another heart on the turn. For some reason I have yet been able to explain is that I knew he didn’t have a heart either so as long as no other heart came I knew I was still good; he bets and I call again, with like 300 chips left. So, I’m still asking for no heart in my head and what would you know it, there’s a 5th heart on the river and he bets out and I call. He shows T7o, no heart and we chop the pot. That little fucker runner runnered a split and instead I don’t get my double up and I’m still shortstacked and am in serious trouble now. I say to him “you jackass (in a joking tone, as I’m in a good mood in all this) you raise and cap with that trash boy? God damn.” He’s like “did you just call me boy? (in a serious tone)” and I’m like “yeah, you played it like an idiot.” One of his girls come over and he gets up and I imagine to complain about me because otherwise he wouldn’t have gotten up. Apparently, I don’t know who HE is I mean, come on, he’s Greenstein’s son. What a Tool.
Nearing the blind increase I get ATo and raise it up, SB reraises me and the board is 9 high and I’m forced to fold. I’m at 500 chips now and the blinds will increase next hand to 100/200 and I’m like MP1 so its getting to be crunch time. The Tool raises me next hand, I look down and see A4s and 3bet him, trying to get it HU as I’m probably a coinflip knowing the crap he’s been raising, another shortstacked guy behind me 3 bets and we see the flop. Board is 789 and The Tool bets, I go all in hoping for at least some outs and the shortstacked buy behind me does the same. The Tool flips over 99 and shortstack JJ. Turn is a T and I have a 2 outer to the Jack to split the pot and it doesn’t get there and I bust.
3 hours into the tournament and I feel like I played my hands pretty well, got rivered a couple times and probably misplayed a couple streets here or there that if it were online it would have been played differently. Got up to go visit maxxscam to see how he was doing in the event and he had like 300 chips left also so I was able to watch the hand he busted in.
Ring: Took a break for a while and met up with the FTR guys and played some blackjack, lost a couple hundred or so while hitting on the hottie Korean table manager the entire 4 hours we were there. Xianti and Tyson took us out to dinner at a real nice place and we go back down to the card room and played some more 20/40. Nothing too exciting in the 3 hours I was there before I got worn out from the long day. Managed to finish up another $250 or so and the table was breaking up and it was getting to be a bad table. I got up and went to bed like 2 am to get up the next day.
Friday
Well, I didn’t get much poker in as I spent a lot of time playing BJ with the FTR mods, the time I did have I made it worth while. I always like to chat it up at the poker table and at least try and have a good time even if I’m losing. I find if I chat more at the table people actually give me some respect and I usually have bull shit more than a hand anyways it works out pretty well. Also, it makes them losing their money to you a lot easier to handle (to both them and you) if you know they are having a good time.
I don’t remember much poker in all seriousness, all I know is I made a 30 BB upswing to go from -$400 to +$800 in like 2 hours, with no flushes or straights hitting. Most of it was taking down unimproved pots and winning with TPTK. But, I’ll take it. I finished the session +$650.
Saturday:
After feeling bad for not playing too much on Friday, I convinced myself to stay away from the Table games and go directly to poker when I got up. Maxxscam and I get some food and head down to the poker room and I start my session at around 1:30 pm.
Here is where the trip turned sour. I could tell you about the dozens bad beats but really, I don’t feel like it and it won’t really do any good but reaffirm that I indeed was running bad, which happens from time to time. I will post a couple of interesting hands that would have made a huge difference in my day.
Hand 1, I am dealt 99 and limp behind a couple limpers in MP and someone raises, we are in a 7 way pot. Board is 29J with what I believe is two diamonds and UTG bets out. My options here are to raise or call, and I opt to call as my raise will not correctly fold anyone, as they will still odds to draw to any gutshot so I go for deception. Was this a mistake? It’s possible but its hard and not be results oriented. 3 people call include the SB and BB and we see the turn and I pray for a good card. Well, it was the Q and it checks to the guy to my right, who bets and I raise, SB 3 bets, BB 4 bets, UTG and I call and SB puts in the 5th bet, making it a 4-way 5bet on the turn; I need help. Well, it didn’t get there and I fold to the BB raise after SB bets to see both SB and BB hit gutshots on the turn and split the hand with TKo in what turned out to be a $1200 pot. Would my raise have folded out the gutshots? Its possible but I am not going to second guess myself in this pot.
After slowly coming back from the early lost of that big pot, I get 22 in the BB and there is a LP limper and SB raises, I call. Board is 28T with two spades and SB bets, I call, LP limper who is also shortstacked raises, SB calls and I 3bet (giving the most obvious line I can possibly do that I have a set), LP calls and SB thinks, and calls. Turn is a J of clubs, putting another club draw out there, I bet, LP raises to $50, going all-in and SB calls and I am forced to complete and cannot reraise. Since it is only ¼ of a bet I am not allowed to reraise and I call the floor over just to be sure because whatever draw SB has, I want him to pay through the nose. Well, I can’t raise and the dealer says: “don’t worry, you’ve still got one more street” and I say: “that’s what I’m afraid of.” As, the only way this guy puts anymore money in the pot is if he actually hit his hand on the river, which is why I need to extract the money out of him on the turn while I’m still ahead. The river is the Q of hearts, and SB donks it out. I say: “and that’s the card I was afraid of,” as I throw out my crying call and SB flips up AKo for the runner runner gutshot. I toss my hand face up into the muck and the entire table groans and I get that real depressed look on the dealer as he whispers “sorry” to me. Oye, what a hand and I did my best to shrug it off but that hand would have put me damn near close to break even. I rebuy as I’m below 12 BB now and try and get it back.
Well, at the end of my first 7 hour session I was down about 35 BB, about $1300, the amount I had won the 3 days prior, but the tables were so good I went and took a break and decided to come back later. Came back to an even better table. Sat down and there is this guy with like $2500 in $5 chips on my left and I’ve got a tag on my left and a couple of newb kids drinking beer on my right. It was a GREAT table and the conversations were hilarious. Although I wasn’t in the pot one of the leak-filled TAGs 44 to my left got counterfeited on the double paired board but when SB only flipped up the Ace and not the other card when the dealer collected his hand, the TAG through a shit fit and called the floor over. Since SB didn’t show both cards he could not have won the pot and the Dealer was forced to give the pot to the TAG, although his hand couldn’t even beat board. SB was a good sport but that really tensed up the table and that it was just too funny to keep from laughing. Throw in the fact that the monster stack on my left was putting bad beats on all of us and it was a good time.
I started up this second session a quick $300 after taking down a couple unimproved pots with K high, throwing out all 3 barrels with confidence only to get a couple of real nice river folds by opponents. My next hand was QJs in the BB and its 6 way to me. I flop my J as TPGK and lead out on a J8x board. The Big stack to my left raises (perfect for me) and it gets headsup and I’m confident my kicker is good, as he would have raised preflop anything with a higher kicker, so I put him on either QJ or JT. Anyway, I let him keep betting as I don’t want to push him off his trash hand as I know he puts me on a weak hand from the BB and the turn and river both bring spades on the board, as he bets all the way with the Q8 of spades to runner the flush. GG me as I told him his Q was dead so what can I do? Back to break even.
KK gets cracked by AJ as my big stack buddy (to which I keep laying it thick on him as “mean guy” cuz he is putting a ton of beats to the guy on my left, but in a fun and good natured tone) flops an Ace and I’m forced to call him down on his flop raise as he is known to make plays. Normally I could fold this against your normal player but couldn’t this time. Heck I folded JJ after I raise preflop and a TAG donks into me when an Ace hits, he even does me the favor of showing the Ace in his hand, which I don’t mind at all. All my folds are dead on but by the end of my second session I started to get a bit tired and my play suffered because of it. I flop top pair in the big blind as Maxxscam raises preflop and I don’t donk it out like I should have, which would have won me the pot. Meanwhile, it checks around twice and a guy donks the river when the runner runner club hit and I fold my hand, which would have been good in the 7 BB pot but I fold, probably the biggest and most costly mistake of the weekend, and it came on the tail end of a 15 hour session. It was such a tough call though and had I played it differently like I should have the pot would have been mine.
I ran pretty bad the whole day, but it took 25 hours into the weekend to hit my first flush or straight draw which I finally did, and it had to come in the form of the runner runner variety. My second flush draw also came in, as I got a free turn and river and when the river paired the 8 it gave me the flush, as I raised the donk better on the river he three-bets and I auto-call thinking he may have been slow playing two pair or something retarded. As soon as I put my crying call out there I realize its not just a paired board, but a DOUBLE paired board of x8448 and my raise was the second most retarded thing I did that weekend. That only cost me 2 BB though but still it was retarded as I didn’t even see or recognize the cards on the board. Man, I guess I was getting tired, but not tired enough to quit. By this time I was down another $700 on this second table as I just can’t seem to get a win streak going, I would win 10 BB only to lose it back but I was dedicated to win back as much as I could.
Fortunately, I didn’t make any more mistakes for my final two hours and managed to win a couple more King high hands after I fire all three barrels on a paired board, commentating the entire way saying things like “who has the jack, where is the check raise, I’m waiting for the check/raise.” I love doing things like that as I tend to rep the hand I have and realize the more I talk and converse at the table the more respect I do get, which only means I win more of my pots on continuation bets and get less plays made at me. The game itself was pretty standard though.
My last hand at the table I get AT and raise it up and a new TAG on my left, who is a good player and likes to 3bet to isolate me, 3bets to isolate me. Which, is fine as ATo I’d rather have HU anyway. Anyways, I flop TPTK with my T and I check/call. The turn is a King and I almost donk bet, thinking to myself if he had AK now I’m fucked so I should bet. Which is retarded thinking that way and logic and I realized it before I bet as I would have to fold to a raise and I didn’t want to do that so again I check called. River is a blank and again I check and villain checks behind and I know my hand is good. Possibly could have clarkmeistered him but at 15 hours into my session, this wasnt the first thing in my mind. Villain isolated with mid pocket pair (pretty standard in the games I play anyway) and I won the coinflip. He proceeded to tell me had I bet the King he was going to raise to rep it so I’m glad I didn’t. He thought he was all that but really his lines were just standard anyway and doesn’t fool me nor maxxscam.
One of maxxscam’s final hands he raises to isolate the TAG to my left as he limps UTG. Board is 433 high with two clubs and Tag pro check raises maxxscam and the field while maxxscam does the correct thing and 3bets and Tag 4bets and its HU. Meanwhile, we know what maxxscam has is an overpair obviously and maxxscam and I put TAG on only two ranges, either 44 or the club draw, and if he had 44 he would have waited until the turn to raise anyway so it was pretty obvious that he had the club draw. Well, when it didn’t hit and maxxscam still called the river bet this TAG seemed like he was being deceptful by his play and maxx and I both said he bricked his flush draw before he even flipped his cards up. Give me a break! Standard, aint nothing maxxscam and I haven’t seen before.
Anyway, we end the session around 5:30 in the morning, finishing up a 15 hour poker session with 1 hour of break in between. It was so long its hard to even remember what happened the rest of the day and it was a lot of hands. In the 15 hours of play I only made 9 BB worth of mistakes, and in the 25 hours total I might have made 15 BB worth. Definitely not perfect play but not enough that it destroyed my profit either. I definitely plan on going back out there next year as the games were SO good I don’t plan on playing anything less than 50/100.
Again, I would like to thank FTR for all their help and support. I had a chance to hand out my handy-dandy FTR business cards to some good players I talked to. Maybe they’ll check out the sight, one can only hope. This report is for the IC only, as I plan on posting a seperate one for the main forums.
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seebok seems like a nice guy on that circuit radio show that he does
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elipsesjeff
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Never said he wasnt a nice guy, just a tool, like my suspciion that most TV professionals are.
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