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Knytestorme

11-05-2007, 10:32 AM Post subject: Does this line make sense?

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Flush

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Location: Australia

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When the heart came at the end I wanted to represent the flush given the way I had played the flop but he insta-called so wanted to see if the line I took once I hadn't improved made sense based on previous streets

GAME #711339778: Texas Hold'em Limit $0.50/$1.00 2007-11-05 11:23:02
Table Conway
Seat 2: winer31 ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 3: tammi75 ($20.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Contenence82 ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Poker5hark ($58.40 in chips)
Seat 6: bestewogibt ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 7: owen00721 ($27.85 in chips)
Seat 9: minifish1 ($48.75 in chips)
Seat 10: Knytestorme ($27.50 in chips) DEALER
winer31: Post SB $0.25
tammi75: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to winer31 [C10 D7]
Dealt to Knytestorme [SA CK]
Contenence82: Fold
Poker5hark: Fold
bestewogibt: Fold
owen00721: Raise $1.00
minifish1: Fold
Knytestorme: Raise $1.50
winer31: Call $1.25
tammi75: Fold
owen00721: Call $0.50
*** FLOP *** [H10 H3 D5]
winer31: Bet $0.50
owen00721: Call $0.50
Knytestorme: Raise $1.00
winer31: Raise $1.00
owen00721: Fold
Knytestorme: Call $0.50
*** TURN *** [D4]
winer31: Bet $1.00
Knytestorme: Call $1.00
*** RIVER *** [H4]
winer31: Bet $1.00
Knytestorme: Raise $2.00
winer31: Call $1.00
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.75 Rake $0.75
winer31: wins $13.75

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Jibalob

11-05-2007, 10:46 AM

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Flush

Join Date: May 2007

Location: Out of my roll

Posts: 512

No.

Just going by the fact that he ended up in a 3-bet pot with T7os I can promise you that attempting to bluff players such as this one is very very -EV. Just value bet him to death later when you have a legitimate hand.

Even if the guy wasnt a total moron, after he 3-bets on the flop I give up on a blank turn - you have pretty much no read at all on what this guy is playing from the blind other than that he REALLY likes this flop. You could easily be drawing dead by the turn.

FWIW I *usually* only try to rep a flush on the river after a sucessful "free card" play with OESD, overcards etc on a two suited flop (3rd on river)

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DrivingDog

11-06-2007, 09:59 AM

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Full House

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Location: UK

Posts: 923

It makes sense that you might have a flush but that doesn't mean anyone's going to fold top pair or better. You're better off just calling the flop and folding the turn UI than trying to bluff someone at this level.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).

Knytestorme

11-06-2007, 11:33 AM

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Flush

Join Date: May 2005

Location: Australia

Posts: 562

Yeah, when I saw what he turned over I realized my mistake right away and I really have to adjust my game to not bluff as much at these levels even if it makes sense..I mean for me, I'd put something like AK

or an overpair right into my opponents range with that line, but that doesn't mean everyone would even be thinking about what I might have as opposed to what they have.

It's just one of those things I guess, but looking at it more I'm happy with the way I played it and think it should have worked at higher levels...and of course with no heart on the river I'm letting it go.

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