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Old 12-21-2005, 08:27 PM     Post subject: Does anyone value bet the river without reads? #1 (permalink)  
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Table 'Niobe II' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Ebinneezer ($139 in chips)
Seat 2: dsaxton ($163 in chips)
Seat 3: OldTimer69er ($33 in chips)
Seat 4: 3acesplus ($156 in chips)
Seat 6: justmoto ($31.50 in chips)
Ebinneezer: posts small blind $1
dsaxton: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [7d 6h]
OldTimer69er: folds
3acesplus: calls $3
justmoto: folds
Ebinneezer: folds
dsaxton: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d 6c 4c]
dsaxton: checks
3acesplus: bets $3
dsaxton: raises $3 to $6
3acesplus: calls $3
*** TURN *** [5d 6c 4c] [Qh]
dsaxton: bets $6
3acesplus: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [5d 6c 4c Qh] [Ts]
dsaxton: ?
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:28 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Prettty standard river bet.
It is thin, but from a metagame standpoint, you don't want people to know you wuss out on the river.
Always remember:
What would Shania do?
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Prettty standard river bet.
It is thin, but from a metagame standpoint, you don't want people to know you wuss out on the river.
Always remember:
What would Shania do?
Bet for value not for metagame purposes, as he is unlikely to remember one hand from the next.

Also, you might be able to get a bluff here from a worse hand when checking. But, I'm not folding.


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Old 12-22-2005, 04:00 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I would check/call against an aggressive opponent, but bet against a calling station.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:15 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I would check/call against an aggressive opponent, but bet against a calling station.
Yea I agree CS likely to check behind with a worse hand and not raise a bettor one, but Argo checking will hopefully induce a bluff... and you get to see SD for only one bet instead of multiple bets...
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:15 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Is it just me, or does the villain's hand look like a busted draw? If you bet, he's just going to fold. By check-calling, you may get lucky and he'll try to bluff.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:19 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Is it just me, or does the villain's hand look like a busted draw? If you bet, he's just going to fold. By check-calling, you may get lucky and he'll try to bluff.
Yeah. I figured he had A-3, A-7 (or a similar hand) or clubs, so I checked with the intention of calling, but I've seen a lot of fish at this level call river bets when they can't even beat third pair.
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Old 12-22-2005, 12:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Is it just me, or does the villain's hand look like a busted draw? If you bet, he's just going to fold. By check-calling, you may get lucky and he'll try to bluff.
If he is passive he'll just check behind and you miss a bet, if he is argo then he would try that bluff...
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I check/call every time in this spot.
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I check/call every time in this spot.
which means you are missing a lot of value from loose passive opponents.
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