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TylerK
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07-07-2005, 11:10 PM
Post subject: Did I blow it against this maniac?
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Lots of KK hands causing me trouble lately. Read on MP1 is that he's a total lunatic and will go nuts postflop if I show any weakness.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , K .
Hero raises, MP1 calls, 5 folds.
Flop: (5.50 SB) 5, K , 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (3.75 BB) 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls.
River: (7.75 BB) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 15.75 BB
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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outphase
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Full House
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PFR then check the flop? I think you brought it upon yourself to let him draw. Also, 3 betting on the river with a open end straight board and a 3 flush is wasting your bets. Your read is right, you showed weakness on the flop and he went insane.
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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A'aag
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Straight
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I'd like the river 3-bet more if he hadn't slowed down on the turn. I don't hate it though, and given your read it makes sense. But when he wakes up again on the river, it looks legit to me. I'm obviously not folding, but I doubt I'm 3-betting. If you bet out on the flop, the whole hand plays differently and it's easier to read your opponent, IMO. As it is, his flop and turn bets could mean anything.
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StinkyBeaver
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Flush
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Originally Posted by A'aag
I'd like the river 3-bet more if he hadn't slowed down on the turn. I don't hate it though, and given your read it makes sense. But when he wakes up again on the river, it looks legit to me. I'm obviously not folding, but I doubt I'm 3-betting. If you bet out on the flop, the whole hand plays differently and it's easier to read your opponent, IMO. As it is, his flop and turn bets could mean anything.
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I' with A'aag here. The turn and river is a legit stop and go, which most of the time means I have a hand. However given your read the 3-bet might be sligtly +EV here. Many of these players will cap with A8of spades for instance just to hope that they can push you off your hand.
But I don't like the 3-bet since you can't fold to a cap vs. this player.
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TylerK
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4-of-a-Kind
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The river 3-bet may have been more out of frustration than anything else.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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A'aag
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Straight
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Location: Loyal son of Rochester
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Originally Posted by TylerK
The river 3-bet may have been more out of frustration than anything else.
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We all know better, but we've all done it.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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aaag: Those words couldnt be truer. Theres plenty of things I do that 'I know better' but do anyway.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Like ugly chicks.
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A'aag
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Straight
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lol 
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pokerfanatic
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4-of-a-Kind
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I think flop line should have been either c/r or lead out other then that I don't see anything...
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Fnord
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Moderator
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Get money in on the flop.
On the river you need to consider what kind of maniac he is. A lot of these guys get really passive on the river. Just calling the raise is probably correct.
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poskid_1982
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Originally Posted by Fnord
On the river you need to consider what kind of maniac he is. A lot of these guys get really passive on the river. Just calling the raise is probably correct.
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Learning this a little slowly. But must agree with Fnord here
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Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
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