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pokerfanatic
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11-17-2005, 11:16 PM
Post subject: Determining when to walk away from a loosing session...
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4-of-a-Kind
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Let's assume you are playing fine, the tables are full of loose donks, and you are reading your opponents well, but yet you still can't seem to win...
At what point do you quit your session? What’s your number -50bb, -75bb, -100bb or some other method to the madness?
Obviously, I’m just looking for some opinions and maybe some extra variables that get put into the mix... I think I have a problem not getting up when I’m down big...
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Demiparadigm
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If I lose about 25BBs I always take a break and reevaluate.
I make sure that my play is still good, and I have a good seat at a good table.
If I decide to continue, and lose another 25BBs, I will usually close the table because there may be factors that I missed causing me to lose.
I also make sure to review my session to determine if I made any mistakes I missed while playing.
If I am winning on other tables I will continue playing on those tables, and perhaps open anther table to replace the losing one.
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Fnord
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Why are you losing?
Who's in what seat?
Are they playing better against you inspired by your run of tough luck?
Are you tired? Tilted?
It's hard to go too wrong leaving. I'm pretty good about leaving bad games before I take it in the bankroll, but wonder sometimes about my decisions to stay in games that look good when I'm running bad.
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elipsesjeff
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I'm hardly ever rebuying, if I drop 15-20 BB at a table 95% of the time I'm finding a new table by the next blind. Exceptions are if I lose HUGE pots with AA or KK or a set or something that was just too nasty. Maybe if some guy decides to cap all four streets on a gutshot draw and I've got obviously the best hand, then he hits the river, chances are I'm going to rebuy once.
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joshuadzl
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I'm becoming pretty supersticious lately and I have found that if I take a bad beat multiple times at one table, or seem to be getting beat up by bad players at that table while still playing good pokers at others, I note the table name in notepad, and get on waiting lists for other tables and leave asap.
It usually if I'm losing on multiple tables do I decide to get up and step away.
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Ltrain
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Originally Posted by dzl
I'm becoming pretty supersticious lately and I have found that if I take a bad beat multiple times at one table, or seem to be getting beat up by bad players at that table while still playing good pokers at others, I note the table name in notepad, and get on waiting lists for other tables and leave asap.
It usually if I'm losing on multiple tables do I decide to get up and step away.
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For me, I will make the same decision but not because I am superstitious. After a few bad beats in a row on a table I know that I will play differently, at least in the short term, trying to get revenge on their stupidity; bad idea. There are other fish in the sea. Also, after being a luckbox for a few hands, the bad player will get an undeserved sense of confidence and coldcall/play back more than usual, which makes it harder to pin them on a hand. Both add up to a table switch.
As far as a session as a whole, If I do go down about 20BB, I cut some tables and ask myself if I am still playing good poker and making good decisions. If I am pushing a hand too far or call down at improper times, I quit or slow down until my decision making improves.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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joshuadzl
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Originally Posted by Ltrain
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Originally Posted by dzl
I'm becoming pretty supersticious lately and I have found that if I take a bad beat multiple times at one table, or seem to be getting beat up by bad players at that table while still playing good pokers at others, I note the table name in notepad, and get on waiting lists for other tables and leave asap.
It usually if I'm losing on multiple tables do I decide to get up and step away.
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euphoricism
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I had a bad case of "dont know when to leave" last night. Sat at a few bad tables in a row, leaked away a lot of money, and didn't get up fast enough. If I did get up, I ended up sitting down at an equally crappy table and repeating.
Its a good way to lose 80 bets.
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pokerfanatic
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I had a bad case of "dont know when to leave" last night. Sat at a few bad tables in a row, leaked away a lot of money, and didn't get up fast enough. If I did get up, I ended up sitting down at an equally crappy table and repeating.
Its a good way to lose 80 bets.
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well, thanks guys i think that my mind just wasn't there completly when i was playing my session yesterday, i'm taking some time off and then i'll come back as if i know nothing of 2/4 and play a game like i know how and stop making retarted plays, if anything good comes from this it's that it's a dumb idea to not quit when you are down 90bb instead i played till i was down 135... no one to blam but me realy other then typical nastay bad beats...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I'm hardly ever rebuying, if I drop 15-20 BB at a table 95% of the time I'm finding a new table by the next blind. Exceptions are if I lose HUGE pots with AA or KK or a set or something that was just too nasty. Maybe if some guy decides to cap all four streets on a gutshot draw and I've got obviously the best hand, then he hits the river, chances are I'm going to rebuy once.
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That happened twice to me yesterday... I dropped 30BB lol
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