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Old 10-21-2004, 09:47 PM     Post subject: Defending the big blind in low limit. #1 (permalink)  

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$2/$4 limit holdem - 6 person table.

you are big blind, everyone folds except the small blind

small blind raises

(I get the notion he is blind stealing...)

you don't have much of a hand, but should you call the raise?

if the flop shows high cards the SB will bet because he is representing that he has high cards because of the raise.


What is your take on defending your big blind?
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Old 10-21-2004, 10:00 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I will let him get away with it, then I plan on pounding a hard re-raise over him later, and since the fact I folded a few times before, he will usually just fold and not try it again.
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Read the Hold'em for Advanced Players section on Shorthanded + Heads-up play. It's like 6 pages.

Basically, you want high cards here and pairs 66 or better. Ignore suits and connectedness.

Stuff to consider:

o How often is it getting folded to a blind steal situation? If not often, don't bother defending aggressivly until the rest of your game is strong.

o How high is the rake? Be less inclined to defend at small stakes as the rake kills your profit.

o How often is the SB/Button doing this? If they're not stealing with a wide range, don't defend.

o Defend with care when dealing with opponents that don't care about money and won't fold. Pick your fights both when stealing and defending.

o Be more inclined to defend your BB against the SB than against the button. You have positon and the SB is less likely to have a good hand.

Finally, have a broad 3-bet range. I will 3-bet against a loose steal any two cards 9 or higher with Queen/King/Ace or pairs 66+. The threat of a loose 3-bet makes it unprofitable to steal with junk.
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:55 PM     Post subject: defending the BB #4 (permalink)  
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 when the button attacks your BB and the SB mucks, you are getting 3.5:1 pot odds to call. so some people reason that it doesn't matter how mismatched your two hands are, you are getting proper odds to see that flop.

however, in my experience, when a full table folds to the button, it often means that all the good cards ended up dealt to the button/blinds. often i have defended the BB only to discover that the button has a real raising hand. and vice versa, i have often attacked from the button only to run into a high pocket pair in the BB.

nowadays i will only defend the BB with a hand that would be playable in say, MP.

one other thing... the term "defending the BB" usually means re-raising in the context of NL or high limit holdem. but it is pretty much useless to re-raise from BB in low limit holdem if your goal is to scare your attacker into folding. i really don't think that ever happens.

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Old 10-22-2004, 08:15 PM     Post subject: Re: defending the BB #5 (permalink)  

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when the button attacks your BB and the SB mucks, you are getting 3.5:1 pot odds to call.
Can you explain that how you have 3.5:1 pot odds?
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:29 PM     Post subject: Re: defending the BB #6 (permalink)  
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nowadays i will only defend the BB with a hand that would be playable in say, MP.

one other thing... the term "defending the BB" usually means re-raising in the context of NL or high limit holdem. but it is pretty much useless to re-raise from BB in low limit holdem if your goal is to scare your attacker into folding. i really don't think that ever happens.
You're too profitable to steal against. 3-betting isn't just about "scaring" off the stealer. Sometimes you figure to have the best hand. Other times it's about taking away his profit.
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Old 10-22-2004, 11:56 PM     Post subject: 3.5:1 pot odds #7 (permalink)  
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 SB = 0.5 BB
BB = 1 BB (as soon as you post, it's not your money)
button raiser = 2 BB

total in pot: 3.5 BB
cost for you to call: 1 BB

so even if you are a 3:1 underdog vs the button, you still have odds to call... at least that's the theory.

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Old 10-23-2004, 12:15 AM     Post subject: Re: 3.5:1 pot odds #8 (permalink)  
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so even if you are a 3:1 underdog vs the button, you still have odds to call... at least that's the theory.
It gives you room to call with a wider range of hands than you might think when facing a MP/LP raise. However, you still must consider the rake and how well your hand/opponent plays post-flop when making these decisions.
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