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Old 04-16-2006, 08:31 PM     Post subject: Decent Draw, lots of players in #1 (permalink)  
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 Can't find a converter for prima HHs, so here we go.

0.25/0.50 Limit Holdem
- Wadofella sitting in seat 2 with $48.23
- gluneedit sitting in seat 3 with $39.50
- FigoRedo sitting in seat 4 with $5.07
- DiplVwRG1 sitting in seat 5 with $5.73 [Dealer]
- spoonitnow sitting in seat 6 with $51.96
- matrix2222 sitting in seat 7 with $15.55
- PeWu sitting in seat 8 with $17.57
- janek174 sitting in seat 9 with $15.79
- fktrcfylh sitting in seat 10 with $5.83

Dealt to spoonitnow:

PeWu called - $0.25, janek174 called - $0.25, 2 folds, gluneedit raised - $0.50, FigoRedo folded, DiplVwRG1 called - $0.50, spoonitnow called - $0.50, matrix2222 folded, PeWu called - $0.50, janek174 called - $0.50

Flop:

spoonitnow bet - $0.25, PeWu called - $0.25, janek174 folded, gluneedit raised - $0.50, DiplVwRG1 called - $0.50, spoonitnow raised - $0.75, PeWu called - $0.75, gluneedit raised - $1.00, DiplVwRG1 called - $1.00, spoonitnow called - $1.00, PeWu called - $1.00

Turn:

spoonitnow checked, PeWu checked, gluneedit bet - $0.50, DiplVwRG1 called - $0.50, spoonitnow raised - $1.00, PeWu folded, gluneedit called - $1.00, DiplVwRG1 called - $1.00

River:

spoonitnow checked, gluneedit checked, DiplVwRG1 checked

My call preflop was bad I think, but I'm posting this hand because I'm not sure if I have a correct understanding of when to raise because of pot equity. I know I have to consider my draw to be less than 15 outs because I have a lower flush, so what should I be counting my club outs here as? Is half an out reasonable? If so, I have about 10.5 outs (4.5 from the flush, 6 from the straight) and my pot equity is like 45% on the flop and 23% on the turn (side note: on the flop, do I count my pot equity as my chance to hit my draw over the next two cards? That's the impression I got from SSH). I don't know if I should of lead the flop, but if I check and there are multiple callers, should I raise based on the idea that I'll be putting in less than my share of the pot? On the turn I'm not sure I should of raised.

As you can tell, I'm pretty much lost for this hand, anyone help me out?
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Old 04-16-2006, 09:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Yeeeeehaw. Gotta love low limit poker, dontcha.. There is wayyyy too much dead money in here. Some of these people probably have second (or third) pair and are drawing practically dead with the foolish idea of, "God if i hit here i'm going to make sooo much!"

Ram the hell out of the flop just like you did, getting as much dead money in the pot as possible. In the same vain, I lead the turn and just call if raised. Check-raising is a bad idea because it serves no purpose but folding people who you don't want to fold. You don't care what they have - they arent folding a flush draw, so you can't clear up any outs here.

Lead the flop and get as much money in there as possible, lead the turn, but i personally pussy out when the turn wiffs and i just call if raised.
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