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Old 10-13-2004, 02:39 AM     Post subject: Damn, reason to not try and check-raise the river #1 (permalink)  
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 -----HAND 3------
Game #138233083: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2004/10/12 - 22:34:09 (EST)
Table "Atlantis" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: climber ($31.75 in chips)
Seat 2: gonzo787 ($35 in chips)
Seat 3: HELMET ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Fluffy3 ($91.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bobizumi ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Arcayalca ($58.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Msmznb ($94.25 in chips)
Seat 8: LrandtheJ ($47 in chips)
Seat 9: CodeRed1 ($90 in chips)
Seat 10: chrisdhal ($32.50 in chips)
LrandtheJ: posts small blind $0.50
CodeRed1: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [Ac Tc]
chrisdhal: folds
climber: folds
gonzo787: folds
HELMET: folds
Fluffy3: folds
bobizumi: calls $1
Arcayalca: folds
Msmznb: raises $2
LrandtheJ: folds
CodeRed1: calls $1
bobizumi: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [7d Qh Kc]
CodeRed1: checks
bobizumi: checks
Msmznb: bets $1
CodeRed1: calls $1
bobizumi: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [7d Qh Kc][Js]
CodeRed1: checks
bobizumi: checks
Msmznb: bets $2
CodeRed1: calls $2
bobizumi: folds
----- RIVER ----- [7d Qh Kc Js][5d]
CodeRed1: checks
Msmznb: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
CodeRed1: shows [Ac Tc] (A Straight, Ace high)
Msmznb: mucks hand
CodeRed1 collected $13 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $13.50 Main pot $13 | Rake $0.50
Board [7d Qh Kc Js 5d]
Seat 1: climber folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: gonzo787 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HELMET folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Fluffy3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bobizumi folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Arcayalca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Msmznb (button) mucked
Seat 8: LrandtheJ (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CodeRed1 (big blind) showed [Ac Tc] and won ($13) with A Straight, Ace high
Seat 10: chrisdhal folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Should I have raised on the turn? I might have been able to get $4 more from him but thats if he actually made a pair and would be willing to take it down, i didnt want to raise because i thought there was a possibility in keeping that other person in.


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Old 10-13-2004, 03:50 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Check/raise the turn, bet the river. Don't count on top pairish hands not checking that board through.
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Old 10-13-2004, 04:51 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 same thing, not 2 hours later...

------HAND 5------
Game #138369843: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2004/10/13 - 00:47:06 (EST)
Table "Amethysts" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: Dohbart ($40.75 in chips)
Seat 2: CodeRed1 ($91 in chips)
Seat 3: madcow ($311.50 in chips)
Seat 4: DoTaSh ($42.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Danyboy ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Yuron1209 ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 7: HELMET ($22.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Hoof ($46 in chips)
Seat 9: Furiog ($56 in chips)
Seat 10: cc2004 ($27.50 in chips)
CodeRed1: posts small blind $0.50
madcow: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [9d Ad]
DoTaSh: folds
Danyboy: folds
Yuron1209: folds
HELMET: folds
Hoof: raises $2
Furiog: folds
cc2004: folds
Dohbart: folds
CodeRed1: calls $1.50
madcow: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [Jh Ts 7c]
CodeRed1: checks
madcow: checks
Hoof: bets $1
CodeRed1: calls $1
madcow: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [Jh Ts 7c][8d]
CodeRed1: checks
madcow: checks
Hoof: checks
----- RIVER ----- [Jh Ts 7c 8d][2h]
CodeRed1: bets $2
madcow: folds
Hoof: folds
Returned uncalled bets $2 to CodeRed1
CodeRed1: doesn't show hand
CodeRed1 collected $8.75 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $9 Main pot $8.75 | Rake $0.25
Board [Jh Ts 7c 8d 2h]
Seat 1: Dohbart (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CodeRed1 (small blind) collected $8.75
Seat 3: madcow (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: DoTaSh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Danyboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Yuron1209 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: HELMET folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hoof folded on the River
Seat 9: Furiog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: cc2004 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I dont know how many more inside straights i can pull out of my ass on the turn... one of these times.


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Old 10-13-2004, 01:08 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Checking at any point with weak/tight players is pointless; they will check it through most of the time as they tend to lean more toward the calling station plays. You need to save this type of action for the LAGs, so you can hammer them for their stupidity. Basically, you need to use the other players downsides against them.
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