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Old 06-02-2010, 09:47 AM     Post subject: Cueing up a triple 25NL #1 (permalink)  
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It's rush so no reads. I'm hoping I can get him to call the turn with a low flush or 78 and then fold the river which I'm shoving. I think I'm shoving 100% of rivers, maybe not a Q. Too aggro?

If you don't like this, what's your standard flop line? c/f? I'm finding that I bet these flops with hands like this and have to c/f on like a million turn cards and it just feels icky.

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($25)
Hero ($25.20)
CO ($29.54)
BTN ($37.91)
SB ($18.85)
BB ($71.38)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.05, CO calls $2.05

Turn: ($6.15, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.15 ...
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't play rush so im not 100% sure. Also am not an Omaha expert by any means.

Here I am assuming you are running the 1card A flush bluff. You know he doesnt have the nuts so you just pound it.

I would bet a little less than full pot on the turn. To me this seems like we want worse hands to call and then makes our river bet more believable.

I don't hate it, but you have to know some things about the general population of players at these stakes. At .05/.1 I would only do this against the guy at the table who is only playing the nuts, because other players call too much. Maybe at .1/.25 rush ppl play much more straightforward??

You should also be putting him on a range of hands. What do you think his range is at this point and is the average player willing to fold those hands often enough to your line?

What are ppl's thoughts on a check/raise turn and river bet? I often take this line for value w/ the Nut Flush because players will bluff the diamond on the turn/value bet worse and make calls hoping to fill up or peel one off to re-evaluate river.
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 Not at 25plo against an unknown. I don't think he's not folding smaller flushes or even sets nearly often enough.
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:30 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I'd rather have some sort of draw to go with it, I just have never had much luck with the bare a play. I would either c/f flop or take this line but not fire river unless maybe board paired.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:29 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Sorry no hand history. But I pulled it off one time like this. Villain in this hand I have been playing with for 400 hands or so and was playing well for these stakes. He was basically nut camping and I knew he would not go the river. I was only playing 2 tables at a time and was actually paying attention.

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3 calls, Hero calls on BTN with AdKJ4, sb calls, BB (VILLAIN) checks.

Flop (.6) 3d 6d Td

Villain bets .5, Hero raises to 2.

Turn is 3c

Villain checks and i bet close to whole pot...he tanks and folds and tells me he had J high flush.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 people aren't folding non-nut flushes here, I'd bet smaller, get a better price on your bluff against 2pr/straight type hands
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 oh ya, I'd c/f the fwop
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:58 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I've seen a few people call down with around a 7 high flop, you'd really need to believe your opponent likes to fold a lot.
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 f folding 7 figh flops imo
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:43 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Lol oops. 7 high flushes I mean. They wont bet, but "omg I have a flush I cant fold!".
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