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sejje
Old 08-29-2005, 01:08 AM     Post subject: CRAZY Hand #1 (permalink)  
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See anything wrong here? Should I be reraising the turn? Everyone slowed down, so I popped the river.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, 1 fold, MP3 caps, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (24.50 SB) 3, 2, 5 (6 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (22.75 BB) 8 (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (27.75 BB) 7 (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 37.75 BB

Results in white below:
BB has 5d 5c (three of a kind, fives).
UTG+1 has Qc Qs (one pair, queens).
MP1 has Ah As (one pair, aces).
MP3 has 4d Kh (high card, king).
Hero has Kc Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins 37.75 BB.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:48 AM #2 (permalink)  
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hmm, just one of those hands. I definitely wouldn't raise or bet the river though
take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
 
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Why not raise the turn?
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:01 AM #4 (permalink)  
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The best part of this handis that MP3 called the river bets.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:15 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah, unfortunately MP3 and his buddies have been busting my ass today.

AA and KK are both losing after over 15 times having them. QQ bigger loser. People flopping trip 2s and straights holding 48...rivering a third king for their KT...
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:17 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Like this:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 raises, 5 folds, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J, T, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

River: (6.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 7d (one pair, sevens).
Hero has As Kc (high card, ace).
UTG+2 has Qs Ks (high card, king).
Outcome: SB wins 6.50 BB.

While I have that posted, am I supposed to continuation bet AK? In NL it was a given. I just can't see check-calling and check-folding almost needs a read, right? I'm kinda lost after my transition here.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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While I have that posted, am I supposed to continuation bet AK? In NL it was a given. I just can't see check-calling and check-folding almost needs a read, right? I'm kinda lost after my transition here.
I have trouble with the missed AKo as well. Of course I will bet the flop to and see what happens, but the turn requires a lot more thinking. if 3 or 4 people called the flop bet and you missed the turn as well, I'd probably just check/fold because obviously someone has a peice of the flop or a pocket pair and they're not folding. If only 1 person called the flop bet then you can try for another bet to see if they fold, but also they could be slow playing a set or better. If they call the turn bet and you miss the river then you're almost certainly beat and then you really don't know what to do. If you check, they will almost certainly bet, and then why call with ace high?

Some people may think this is a little weak, but you can't just be throwing money at people that are calling flop, turn and river bets.

I believe the missed AKo is a lot about reads. You've got to bet if you think there's a chance they will fold, but they've already beaten you if they have a pair.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:43 AM #8 (permalink)  
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that river raise is just spewing chips.
 
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