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03-31-2008, 06:27 PM
Post subject: couple questions..
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 4,255
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two quick hands...
one...
no real reads, but one of the guys that folded turn was a 100 vpip. i want to know if this was overvaluing my TPTK while protecting the draw? no way i can protect the flop. but, on turn, i can make a huge statement on turn. do i call down, or was the 3bet a good thought/move? my thought: the only way to win this large pot is to thin the field the best way possible.
0.25/0.5 Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($10.40)
UTG+1 ($9.50)
MP1 ($10.00)
MP2 ($20.25)
MP3 ($2.65)
Hero ($8.80)
BTN ($20.60)
SB ($9.75)
BB ($14.20)
Pre-flop: (1.4 SB, 9 players) Hero is CO
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, SB 4-bets, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls
Flop: (21.0 SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB calls
Turn: (13.0 BB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 4-bets
River: (19.6 BB, 2 players)
Final Pot: 19.6 BB
two...
villain is 30/6/2 and doesnt show down much. i b/f river because i figure he doesnt bluff/raise and i was going to c/c anyway. is this a spot where we can get away from good river odds, based on the read? or do we still have allow the math to override our read?
0.1/0.2 Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($5.45)
UTG+1 ($4.00)
UTG+2 ($6.87)
MP1 ($5.62)
MP2 ($4.53)
MP3 ($3.60)
CO ($8.87)
BTN ($7.61)
SB ($8.25)
BB ($4.25)
[UTG+1 posted 0.1]
Pre-flop: (2.5 SB, 10 players) Hero is UTG
Hero calls, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, BTN calls, SB calls, BB checks
Flop: (6.0 SB, 6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, BTN calls, SB folds, BB calls
Turn: (7.0 BB, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, 1 fold, BTN raises, BB folds, Hero calls
River: (11.0 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero folds
Final Pot: 13.0 BB
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DrivingDog
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 923
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Hand 1: I'd be squirming if I had TPTK and there was a bet and raise in front of me on the turn with two other players behind me left to act. On a clear day I'd probably lean towards a fold since MP3 just called the flop donk when he presumably would have raised a hand like AK, but then he raised the turn when a blank fell. Smells like a monster.
Hand 2: On the turn it's starting to look pretty bad. The warning sign is the fact that Btn cold called two on the flop, then raised the turn. That's usually a draw (65) that just hit on the turn or a monster (set, 87, AA). I think we should check/fold the river unless we hit a set or the board pairs.
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Hand 1: I'd probably raise the flop, because you hit your hand, might as well raise once. But I'd fold the turn.
Hand 2: I might consider folding the turn. It looks to me like it could save money in the long run.
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