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steelwheel

12-26-2004, 04:06 AM Post subject: couple hands - right play?

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ok im mainly a NL holdem player, but will play Limit if its the only game going (at home games I mean, not online).

So last night (xmas night) I was playing a game of limit with some friends (everyone else thinks Im a bit obsessed with playing poker since I played on xmas night, but I know you all will understand

)

limits are $1 - $2.
One hand im in middle position, with A

Player before me calls, I call, the fellow on the button decides to raise, the BB calls. So theres four players seeing the flop here.
Flop comes Q

The guy before me starts off the betting, I raise, button reraises and then the guy before me makes it four bets.
I was thinking of folding here and now, as it was obvious to me that the guy before me has a set (probably queens).
But I decide to call. Button also calls.
Turn is K

What would you do?
Check-raise?
Check-call?
or Bet?

I Bet. I figured with all that action on the flop I was up agianst a set and two pair or maybe two sets. So I decided that I should get as much money as I can out of them, while I have the best hand.

Was that the right move? Later on I was thinking that maybe I should have checked-called to make it look like the diamond scared me and I dont have the flush.

River was rag BTW, and I won a massive pot. The guy before me had Q8s (top two pair on flop), and button had a set of queens.

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steelwheel

12-26-2004, 04:11 AM

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another hand Im in BB and get dealt K

everyone around to the button folds. Button raises. SB calls. I reraise. They both call.
Flop comes up A

SB checks, I bet they both call.
Turn is 7

I now have a full. The SB checks yet again.
What should I do?
check raise?
Check call?
bet?

I checked. My thinking was that if they both check then on the river they would call (maybe even raise) with hands that they would have folded to a bet on the turn. If they bet I was going to raise.

Was the checking the correct play to get as much money as I could?

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gabe

12-26-2004, 04:11 AM

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if they are as loose as you make it sound, i would just bet.

steelwheel

12-26-2004, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel

if they are as loose as you make it sound, i would just bet.

for the first hand?
The players arent really loose, although the player who called the the raise with Q8 preflop is known to see way too many flops.

Im just wondering in these situations where I have the best hand on the turn, what is the best move for me to do to try and get as much money out of them.

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12-26-2004, 05:29 AM

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Fnord is the limit guru here, but I'd say bet your heart out in both hands.

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12-26-2004, 05:44 AM

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do whatever you need to do to make the most money...this would be to just bet at loose players, and check raise tight players, but not so tight they'll check it through, bet at those.

steelwheel

12-26-2004, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel

if they are as loose as you make it sound, i would just bet.

just had a thought. If I was playing against a bunch of loose players and I had the best hand on the turn, if I wanted to get the most money in the pot should I just bet out instead of trying anything too fancy such as checkraising?

I havent played limit terribly much so aint entirely too sure.

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12-26-2004, 03:08 PM

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BINGO! you just discovered the secret to winning low limit hold em.

furthermore, if you truly believe these guys have sets, you are in danger of the board pairing, so you better bet the hell out of your nut flush. this same exact situation happened to me yesterday and i lost a pretty penny. K9s, hit my flush on the turn, guy had a set and filled up on the river. ouch.

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12-26-2004, 03:12 PM

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on the first hand i would bet on the turn and the river. checkraising isn't necessary, especially if the flop was capped.

on the second hand, i would bet. i think slowplaying trips is a bad idea.

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12-26-2004, 11:43 PM Post subject: Re: couple hands - right play?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steelwheel

I was thinking of folding here and now, as it was obvious to me that the guy before me has a set (probably queens).

Bad assumption.

Yes, bet out or check/raise depending on your read of the button.

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12-26-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by steelwheel

What should I do?
check raise?
Check call?
bet?

Bet.

Ax calls or an aggro player check/raises figuring kickers won't play
7x will sometimes check/raise
Lots of other junk calls too

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steelwheel

12-26-2004, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fnord

Bet.

Ax calls or an aggro player check/raises figuring kickers won't play
7x will sometimes check/raise
Lots of other junk calls too

yeah I thought I made the wrong move there. Button had A9s, not sure what SB had, so Yea if I had bet on the turn I know the Button would have called, so missed out on good oppurtunity to get more money in the pot.

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12-27-2004, 06:00 AM

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First Hand you did good on it. You gave away your hand though by betting first on the turn. You could possibly check raise it here if you were sure to get a bettor after you, you get more money in the pot and can possibly get them commited to their hand They'll call you down with anything.

Second Hand, go ahead and bet the Flop from all positions, You want to build the pot, but check raising wouldnt be a bad idea if you were afraid of the flush out there. On the turn, go ahead and bet, hoping the guy calls you down and hits his flush on the river. You need to build your pots in LHE for yourself, don't count on anyone else to do it.

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12-27-2004, 03:07 PM Post subject: Re: couple hands - right play?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steelwheel

So last night (xmas night) I was playing a game of limit with some friends (everyone else thinks Im a bit obsessed with playing poker since I played on xmas night, but I know you all will understand

)

I played xmas night as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelwheel

limits are $1 - $2.
One hand im in middle position, with A

Player before me calls, I call, the fellow on the button decides to raise, the BB calls. So theres four players seeing the flop here.
Flop comes Q

What would you do?
Check-raise?
Check-call?
or Bet?

In this case the raiser is on your immediate left. I'd check-raise so you end up trapping him and the others for at least 2 big bets. If you bet out and he raises again, it may knock out even looser players, but if you can get them to call 1 big bet twice that would probably get them to continue to the river.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelwheel

I Bet. I figured with all that action on the flop I was up agianst a set and two pair or maybe two sets. So I decided that I should get as much money as I can out of them, while I have the best hand.

Was that the right move? Later on I was thinking that maybe I should have checked-called to make it look like the diamond scared me and I dont have the flush.

River was rag BTW, and I won a massive pot. The guy before me had Q8s (top two pair on flop), and button had a set of queens.

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