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rmariani

03-30-2005, 08:27 AM Post subject: Could I do more?

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Did I get the max of this hand?
I thik I played it good, but I can be wrong

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, A

.
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4

, 6

, 2

(5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 9

(4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) 2

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Ad (flush, ace high).
MP1 has Kd 4d (flush, king high).
SB has As 9s (two pair, nines and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 19 BB.

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G_host

03-30-2005, 10:56 AM

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You got the nuts on the turn. Raise! Don't slowplay here , you are loosing bets.

Room

03-30-2005, 11:17 AM

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Raise the turn, heres the reasoning. Yes, it gives away your hand but. SB called MP1's 2 bet, if you reraise, and mp1 caps, you get an additional 4 bets in the pot at the turn (assuming everyone calls which is a likely assumption). lead the river and plan on getting another 1 bet there. thats 5 BB you win by that line (if SB folds the river) or 3 if you take your line of calling and 3 betting the river (with a possible losing hand). What did SB do on the river? It looks like he checks here then no more info. Anyways, initially calling SB turn bet is fine, but when its raised behind and youve got the nuts, jam it and get everyones money in the pot.

03-30-2005, 11:22 AM

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I may even consider a 3 bet preflop here.

DEFINITELY raise the turn, the Party .5/1 numpties will always give you action, so don't worry about having to slowplay.

Rondavu

03-30-2005, 02:49 PM

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Whenever you have that much action on a made board, it should tell you that it's a monster over monster scenerio. You knew you had the nuts, so welcome the action and cap it on every possible street.

With the king flush, he's very likely to be very aggressive since he knows only an ace flush will beat him. The odds of an ace flush being in the same hand as a king flush are very low, so he wouldn't have believed you had the ace unless he was a very cautious player. He would have put you on the Q, J, or even the 10 suited diamonds. He does this because he wants to believe his hand is the winner. He therefore may have payed you off for capping 4th and 5th street.

I would not consider a 3-bet preflop here. In late position I may 3-bet it, but against a raise with AJ in hand I would feel dominated if diamonds don't pop. It would be nice to isolate BB here with a 3-bet, but there were way to many people to act behind you that would harness position if they called. If they call a 3-bet with position on you, then you don't know what they have. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just calling it my personal preference. AJ suited is a drawing hand first and foremost here since you wouldn't call a raise with AJ unsuited in that position. That being the case, you don't mind people calling the 2-bet behind you on that drawing hand. It's only going to make it correct for you to draw to the nuts with a bigger pot.

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storm75m

03-30-2005, 03:05 PM

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yep, raise the turn, but after MP1 raised. You did good by just calling at first, but after MP1 raised and the other guy called, you know they are both gonna call one additional bet if you go ahead and cap it. Otherwise, vnh.

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gabe

03-30-2005, 04:07 PM

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SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls.

Where did SB go?

It seems like the converter is messing up alot lately.

Room

03-30-2005, 04:26 PM

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In re: to 3-betting the flop.

In a tight game with not as many callers, I'd say go for iso against the SB. However, here you had so many callers that one is bound to call behind you and put you out of position. I dont think a 3 bet is terrible here, but I dont think Im making that play.

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