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jmontis
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09-07-2005, 09:54 PM
Post subject: correct play on my part?
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http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?p...ew&hand=121495
hand converter isn't showing the right preflop action and betting, so i used that
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Fnord
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outphase
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Great play on your part... your opp on the other hand... well, you know
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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dalecooper
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Holy crap. What the hell was that man thinking.
As far as your play, I'm a limit n00b but I'd like to give it a crack. I think pre-flop plays itself. On the flop I would think a call might be in order rather than a raise - no one else has called the first bet when you raise, so why not try to keep them all in to increase your value? It seems somewhat lucky that Cavan called the two bets cold with god-knows-what. The rest is good.
Can you limit experts comment on this? Why is a raise there better than a call? You're probably guaranteed at least a call from outer space, where azasp is clearly playing from, and maybe a re-raise, but Cavan and idbackyard are more likely to call one bet than two. Am I wrong about that?
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jmontis
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ya, there are debates about situations like that flop. I could call and keep the other 2 in, or raise for value and maybe even win the pot without a showdown.
If it was a tight game, i may have just called, but I counted on the guy behind me cold calling my raise, which he did.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Fnord
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It's a big pot and you have a lot of equity. Raise to win.
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jmontis
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
It's a big pot and you have a lot of equity. Raise to win.
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thats what i shot for
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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KoRnholio
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Pretty much.. There's other reasons as well though. When you reraise the flop most (bad) players won't pin you on overcards with a flush draw, so they'll call even if that 3rd diamond hits.
It will also make someone with a somewhat weak holding (like pocket pairs 66-99) fold thinking they are way behind in the hand, allowing your unimproved AKs to have a better chance of winning a showdown.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Shark Bait
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What if:
Assume everything is the same, except you are last to act and everyone has checked to you on the turn. Check or bet? What if no flush draw?
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<a500lbgorilla> Limit is poker with training wheels!
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KoRnholio
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I'd still bet to see where you're at. An overpair/set will probably 3bet it, AQ/etc will call. With no flush draw your hand isn't as strong, I might fold in the face of that many players.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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