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ChezJ
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03-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Post subject: common situations
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Full House
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let's all share some situations that are commonly encountered and easily avoided... if you can only recognize them.
here's one i've noticed lately: flop comes out some low ragged rainbow with no draws and yet the SB bets out immediately. seems irrational at first, since he's out of position. the only explanation is... he flopped 2 pair.
another one that i'm sure everyone has noticed: whenever you have 2 pr, there is almost always a str8 draw out to get you. fnord's sticky warns about the broadway being out there when you have a high two pair, but this also applies to low two pairs if you are playing suited connectors or gappers. if you run into resistance on the next card, DON'T re-raise, just call down.
and one that i noted in another thread: you raise to protect your TP on the flop, and the original bettor just calls. but then the turn comes and he fires into you again. what's going on? the answer is almost always the same... he caught 2 pr.
others?
ChezJ
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Gatlin Dan
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chez--maybe you should think about putting the answers to those questions in white similar to the hands histories. That way any of the people who are new to the forum can get all that good information right there without having to search around to find the answers. Just a thought.
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ChezJ
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they are in white already, aren't they?
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Gatlin Dan
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damn, chez...sorry man. I didn't even see them there. I just skipped right over them...
*strike my previous comment from the record. Instead how about at the top putting a notice like:
 Answers are in white below or something so retards like me aren't skipping over them. 
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LeFou
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Okay here's one: the world's Easiest Read.
Y'know that loose-passive player who will see the flop with any 2 cards that are vaguely rectangular but never raises?
When heshe raises PF, you are up against: QQ
When heshe goes all-in PF, first-to-act: AA
(Yes this is a dumb way to play. But that's what is happening)
Whoops -- just realized this is the LHE zone. Oh well, for what it's worth.
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ChezJ
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a couple related ones i just remembered:
flop comes semi ragged. EP bets, several people call, LP raises, EP calls, then suddenly one of the callers in MP re-raises. what's going on?
answer: MP flopped a set.
similarly, preflop, several people limp in, someone raises, blinds and limpers start to call the raise, but then one of the limpers in EP suddenly wakes up with a re-raise. what's up?
answer: EP has AA/KK.
if you recognize either of these situations while you're in a hand, get the hell out of dodge!
ChezJ
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
similarly, preflop, several people limp in, someone raises, blinds and limpers start to call the raise, but then one of the limpers in EP suddenly wakes up with a re-raise. what's up?
answer: EP has AA/KK.
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It's just as often some idiot who thinks big pots are fun or someone who limped in from EP with a pocket re-raising for value.
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ChezJ
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true, but in those cases it's usually pretty obvious the guy's a clown so you can discount his 3bet. similarly, the person who caps pre-flop in between two raisers doesn't necessarily have a super hand, he often just wants to get it all over with so he can see the darn flop.
ChezJ
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Gatlin Dan
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Quote:
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
similarly, preflop, several people limp in, someone raises, blinds and limpers start to call the raise, but then one of the limpers in EP suddenly wakes up with a re-raise. what's up?
answer: EP has AA/KK.
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It's just as often some idiot who thinks big pots are fun or someone who limped in from EP with a pocket re-raising for value. |
I will often limp with Axs in a multi-way pot and then cap after limping. I got this from SSH. Can't remember what page for sure, but that is probably somewhat similar to re-raising for value with a pocket.
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