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Romulus141

12-31-2005, 01:25 AM Post subject: A common hand situation I need advice on

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Here's a situation I find myself in from time to time, and I'd like to know what your guys' take on it is.

SB is 53/0/0.86 after 16 hands.

Okay, so it's raised pre-flop. A good amount of people see the flop. I spike top pair with no kicker. I am bet into by a limper. Do I follow my flop line to isolate? I know I might be behind.

Looking back, my turn play seems a little suspect. I had three outs to a two-pair, which I probably need to win. I'm now arguing I should have checked through the turn, and folded the river unimproved IF I'm bet into.

If I'm not bet into on the river, do I take the free showdown or attack the weakness?

Thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, 4

.
3 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6

, T

, A

(6 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (10 BB) 8

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB
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EDIT: I don't have three outs to a two pair on the turn. The board paired. Thanks to Demi for pointing that out.

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Demiparadigm

12-31-2005, 01:55 AM

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Preflop: anyone who says to fold A4s here is wrong. The odds to call one bet are way too good to fold here.

Flop: This is close. There are a few draws possible on this board, and you have some serious reverse implied odds issues. However, if you continue with this hand, (folding is not a big mistake) you need to raise to get hands like Tx to fold, which have 5 outs to beat you in this huge pot. Your raise lays odds of 7.5 to 1 for the field to call, which is just about enough to call with any pair. Flush draws aren't folding so whether you raise or not doesn't affect this at all. getting the weak draws out improves your equity here a lot.

Turn: You have AA66T You DO NOT have outs to 2 pair. Your hand isn't getting any better, with the exception of a 6 or A giving you a boat. You are now splitting with any ace with a kicker <T and losing to the other kickers. A T is actually a bad card for you because it would change your hand to AATT6 so now you are losing to any T or any ace with a kicker 6 or higher.
A bet here is good. If we are ahead, we don't want to give a free card (although a T is now in bad shape) The idea of checking her e and folding to a river bet is wrong. There are very few hands that beat you now.
River: This is one of those situations where you are rarely getting a call from a worse hand and you are NEVER folding a better hand, so the difference between a bet and check is slim. Unless your opponent will call with a pair <AA the bet has no value. (Your opponent is BAD though, so he may call with anything )

To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.

Romulus141

12-31-2005, 03:36 AM

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Shoot, you're right, neglected the fact that the board paired. Case of me not paying close enough attention.

Raise or fold situation on the flop, depending on how I feel. If I had one heart on the board, I think that would turn this from a raise/fold to a definite raise. Two hearts would require a call to encourage limpers.

Say the board didn't pair on the turn, do I want to take a free card then, or bet again and take the free showdown unimproved? I'm thinking the free showdown again, because a free card for any player holding a pair of tens or worse or going for the flush draw could spell disaster. I guess on a non flush board, it wouldn't be as bad, but it does seem like a bet on the turn is required.

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