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Ltrain

01-07-2006, 06:22 AM Post subject: Commentary tribute to fnord (nc)

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3

, 8

.
2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) A

, 3

, 6

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (2 BB) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (4 BB) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Villian had 10,10; Commentary afterward

Villian: Lucky Moron
Me: and knowing is half the battle

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01-07-2006, 06:40 AM Post subject: Re: Commentary tribute to fnord (nc)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ltrain

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3

, 8

.
2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) A

, 3

, 6

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (2 BB) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (4 BB) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Villian had 10,10; Commentary afterward

Villian: Lucky Moron
Me: and knowing is half the battle

Wasn't that GI Joe?

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mike4066

01-07-2006, 05:52 PM

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#1Spewage, you have a few thing working against you
Bottom pair no kicker/ out of position, and what i think is most important here, a microscopic pot.
Heads up you have to win this situations every time to make money.
Save the variance for when its truely deserved.

#2Yes it was GIJoe

outphase

01-07-2006, 06:04 PM

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This hand was lost because CO didn't think TT was good enough to be raised shorthanded

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambchopdc

Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.

elipsesjeff

01-07-2006, 08:24 PM

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elipsesjeff is an unknown quantity at this point

I dont mind the play.

Here's mine from tonight:

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

, 9

.
1 fold, MP raises, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9

, T

, A

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 5

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, CO folds, SB calls.

River: (9 BB) 3

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 5c 9c (two pair, nines and fives).
MP has Ah 6h (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 11 BB.

Him:
-Wow, Bad hand.
-I dont think i've ever seen a worse player than you.
-Is that Aurora, Illinois?

Me: Yes sir

Him:
-Figures as much
-You probably live in the slums

Me: Yup

Him: You are the worst player I've ever seen, and I've been playing for a long time

Me: You can go ahead and buddy list me if you want, its good for my table image
-I'd tell you how to play your hand but you wouldn't listen

Him: You are on everyone's buddy list by default

...

He continue to berate for a couple hours, even follow me around to every table. I eventually had to block his chat as it was pretty annoying.. Either way, It's funny.

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pokerfanatic

01-07-2006, 08:36 PM

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GOD JEFF YOU'RE A FISH!!!

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Ltrain

01-07-2006, 09:55 PM

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I posted this really more for the statement because when it happened, I remembered a past fnord post and couldn't resist.

FWIW on the hand, I would have folded to a raise pf and was not planning on putting in any more chips until I hit the 8 on the turn. HU on ragged flops its usually the person who puts in the chips first who wins, and I would have expected an ace raise pf. CO obviously is the moron for not raising his pocket tens pf, but I don't table coach; I would rather take more of his chips when he tilts.

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koolmoe

01-07-2006, 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike4066

Heads up you have to win this situations every time to make money.

Nah, he only has to take it down on the flop maybe 25% of the time.

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mike4066

01-08-2006, 12:22 AM

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yea, I exaggerated a bit, but to fire all streets?

Your contributing 1/2 the pot tryign to force them to fold, or value bet bottom pair. Your only going to make what you put in. I know that once you put the money in that it is no longer yours. But your contributing 1/2 the pot here to win a forced 1/2 bet.

euphoricism

01-08-2006, 05:23 AM

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Mike, re-read -- he hit two pair on the turn

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JJDylan

01-08-2006, 05:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

I dont mind the play.

Here's mine from tonight:

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

, 9

.
1 fold, MP raises, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9

, T

, A

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 5

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, CO folds, SB calls.

River: (9 BB) 3

what was your reasoning for betting bottom pair into 4 people including the preflop raiser? i really dont understand the play at all

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Shark Bait

01-08-2006, 05:53 AM

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Because it's 6 max and flop bets are cheap.

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elipsesjeff

01-08-2006, 06:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JJDylan

what was your reasoning for betting bottom pair into 4 people including the preflop raiser? i really dont understand the play at all

You have odds to call one bet with your 5 outer so you might as well bet and add some folding equity.

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mike4066

01-08-2006, 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by euphoricism

Mike, re-read -- he hit two pair on the turn

PWND!

somehow I completly missed the fact that they both turned 2pair..

thanks euph, that makes these hands make alot more sense.

mike4066

01-08-2006, 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by koolmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike4066

Heads up you have to win this situations every time to make money.

Nah, he only has to take it down on the flop maybe 25% of the time.

I was looking more at the entire hand fireing all 3 streets with bottom pair.. I misread the hand and didn't realize he turned 2p...

Completely understand the hand now.

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