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Old 12-20-2004, 09:33 PM     Post subject: Cold-Calling #1 (permalink)  
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 Should I have Cold-Called here?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO raises, Hero folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.


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Old 12-20-2004, 09:53 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Good fold.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO raises, Hero folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) K, A, A (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG calls.

River: (10 BB) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Ks 3c (two pair, aces and kings).
UTG+1 has Jc Ts (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins 10 BB.


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Good fold.
why would you say that without a read on him as a tight player?
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Most Low Limit players don't raise a wide range of hands. I'm not by any means a tight raiser and AJo plays poorly against my raising range.

Against a tight raiser I would muck AQo here too.
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Good fold. I don't call with less than AQ here.
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Here's a hand where I laid down my AJ as well. I would have won the hand but thats beside the point. The fold was still correct. I was beat preflop, and on the flop.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Jh, Ac.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 4h, Jc, 4c (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: (5.70 BB) Jd (2 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 bets, MP1 calls.

River: (7.70 BB) 2s (2 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

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MP1 has Qh Qc (two pair, queens and jacks).
MP3 has As Ad (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins 9.70 BB.
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you could call this shorthanded (depending on your read), but full ring AJo is a CLEAR fold against a raise.
 
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you could call this shorthanded
Not really. Fold or 3-bet.
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