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Old 07-05-2005, 01:14 AM     Post subject: check raised into TPTK, how do you play this? (LC) #1 (permalink)  
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I thought about jamming the pot on the river, but little birdy said not to... literally, i had a Wonderfalls moment

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG caps, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 5, A, 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) K (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:42 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Without a read, this sure looks like he has the other two aces and turned on the slowplay when he saw the flop. You might split, and I'm sure sometimes you're good, but I think I just call this down too.
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:23 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Without a read its tough. When the 2nd spade fell on the turn my first thought was he's raising a flush draw, but that would he was raising UTG with QJs, Q10s, or a suited connector which I would assume is doubtful in $2/$4. I play .50/$1 and you see some weird things happen. AA is definitely likely, and an very loose player could cap with Axs, such as A8s and hit his 2 pair on the turn, but again do you see this type of play at $2/$4? You have no choice but to call this one down I suppose, but I hate it when I do that and I know in my heart I'm beat. Been working on that of late.
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Well played.
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:39 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I raise the river but call a reraise. He's more likely got two pair than a set here. I'm guessing with A7 or A8 or even 89. You'll win this more than you lose so i would raise for value.


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I raise the river but call a reraise. He's more likely got two pair than a set here. I'm guessing with A7 or A8 or even 89. You'll win this more than you lose so i would raise for value.
Did you notice UTG capped preflop?
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:00 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I raise the river but call a reraise. He's more likely got two pair than a set here. I'm guessing with A7 or A8 or even 89. You'll win this more than you lose so i would raise for value.
Did you notice UTG capped preflop?
Did you notice this is Party 2/4?
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I raise the river but call a reraise. He's more likely got two pair than a set here. I'm guessing with A7 or A8 or even 89. You'll win this more than you lose so i would raise for value.
Did you notice UTG capped preflop?
Did you notice this is Party 2/4?
And for example:
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero 3-bets, 6 folds, UTG+1 caps, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6, 3, 5 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) Q (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.75 BB) Q (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

UTG+1 has Ah 9s (flush, ace high).
UTG+2 has 5s 4s (two pair, queens and fives).
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Villian held AA and played me for a fool... FOOL!!
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:47 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Villian held AA and played me for a fool... FOOL!!
Not really. Considering you are going to showdown here no matter what anyway, and especially heads up. You are going to win this more often than not anyway and the one bet on the river wont significantly change your lossrate to any noticeable amount.


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