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Old 06-03-2006, 03:03 AM     Post subject: Check-raise done correctly? #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: hlacheen is BB with 5, 5.
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, hlacheen calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9, 9, T (4 players)
hlacheen checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button bets, hlacheen raises, UTG folds, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 6 (3 players)
hlacheen bets, MP calls, Button folds.

River: (9.25 BB) 8 (2 players)
hlacheen bets, MP folds.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

I'm just learning to how/when to check -raise. Was this played correctly?
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:26 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I just started out in 6max limit yesterday (.50/1) and I don't have a lot of experience in this matter so take this with a grain of salt.

I would let him have this pot . You are out of position with a pretty marginal hand and 4 people have seen the flop. I don't think your hand is good here too often.

If the action went more like:

Pre-flop
3 folds, Button raises, SB folds, and you call, I would check-raise a raggy flop against a TAgg.
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Old 06-03-2006, 02:05 PM #3 (permalink)  
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This could be a good play at higher stakes, but at .50/1 not such a good idea. Problem is any T, QJ, KJ, KQ, along with other hands are usually going to call you. When you are behind, you are way behind, drawing to 2 outs, When you are ahead, you are very likely to get outdrawn. It is tough to make money with a low underpair in a 4way pot. I just fold.
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That and no one believes you when you c/r this flop. The 9 certainly isn't going to do that, the T -might-, but certainly no other T is going to fold, and a lot of people are going to draw to try and pair their A or K. Also the straight draw.

Check fold.
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Old 06-04-2006, 01:06 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah, what eupho said.
When trying to represent something, think of the last AA you had and got beat when 93o flopped 99K on the flop. Did he CR the flop? No...he smooth called and CRed the turn.
Although this kind of play is a little if not very sophisticated for the donkelicious .5/1 level
I like raising here in a MAXIMUM 3way pot if the first player leads, I'll raise to get the player in position to fold mostly anything and see where firsty stands. If he calls and checks the turn, I mostly bet then check behind the river figuring him for a T, if he leads the turn I fold.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:49 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Yea this was not a very good play now that I think about it. At party, at these stakes, I would have normally been called with any PP, and 6, any 8, any 8, any 10, and probably any Ace.

I've just started playing at Full Tilt, and the tighter players are actually improving my win rate.

I think my problem with Party is I don't know how to play with 60/10's to my left, which is pretty much every table at .50/1.00.
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I think my problem with Party is I don't know how to play with 60/10's to my left, which is pretty much every table at .50/1.00.
That's easy. Don't.
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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You can win with 60/10s to your left, that is no problem, but you will win a lot more with them on your right, so sit there if you can. With them on your left, you just have to tighten up a little in stealing position, folding the more marginal Ax and Kx hands and small pps, and then don't get tricky postflop ... value bet em to death. I have no problem sitting to the right of the loose calling stations if that is the best table and seat I can find.
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