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G_host
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03-21-2005, 09:12 AM
Post subject: Caught between the fish and the rocks
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
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Was at a semi nice 0.5/1 table, had was right behind four nice fishy players. Right behind me a had a real rock VPIP 10 and a rockish tag VPIP ~16.
What do you do when you get say KJo,KTo,88,77, the fishes has limped in and the the rock and the TAG is left to act before the blinds. Do you raise to get the rock and TAG top fold hands they would have limped with or do you just limp and hope they fold?
I could guess they had me as sightly loose agressive at that table.
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Gatlin Dan
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I raise, even if they have you pegged as loose and aggressive. If a true rock, he's still going to respect your raise. If he cold-calls, look out though. That's with your unpaired offsuit high cards like AT, KQ, and KJ. KTo is an auto-muck with two good players behind you. With the middle pairs and so many limping fish ahead of you, I call and see if the two players behind you come along as well and hope to flop the set. I'm not worried if they raise behind me when I have the pair, because the fish are going to pad the pot. Middle pairs would be tough to play against four fish ahead of you without flopping that set. If they are fish, they are calling and one of them is going to connect with something higher than 7 or 8 most of the time. You're not going to be able to get them to fold having already invested money pre-flop, so I call with the pairs and play fit or fold poker with four limpers in, unless I flop the outside straight draw and then will take one off on the flop and re-evaluate after the turn.
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Fnord
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Great seat. Blast away.
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G_host
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Straight
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Sounds like the way I played it. I seem to have trouble making profit when there is too many fishes at the table, bginning to think 3 really loose players are best for me. But I guess it's just variance, got alot off my top pair/two pairs beaten on the river by fishes calling allt the way with bottom pair and hitting on the river.
Guess I gotta be even more tighter against them 
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by G_host
Sounds like the way I played it. I seem to have trouble making profit when there is too many fishes at the table, bginning to think 3 really loose players are best for me. But I guess it's just variance, got alot off my top pair/two pairs beaten on the river by fishes calling allt the way with bottom pair and hitting on the river.
Guess I gotta be even more tighter against them |
I don't necessarily think you need to play tigher against them, you just need to be willing to play more hands that play well in multi-way action, suited connectors, one gap connectors from late position and any pairs hoping to hit the set. Play hands that have potential to make big hands, but play those hands cheaply preflop.
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