Card dead and variance

Not really much you could do. The biggest fallacy here would be to open up your game because you most likely aren't used to playing different types of hands in different positions thus leading you to make mistakes. Limit is all about the swings. Just roll with the punches, you'll be fine.

Agreed. I just realized that I also stayed at the table too long and I probably should have cut my losses earlier. As for hand variety, I have dabbled in it occasionally to moderate success (suited connectors, etc.) but I wasn't even getting these to play with. Mostly trash like J2, Q5, ad nauseum. Thanks for the reply! I'll just stay the course, then....

the difference between a great player and a good player is the ability to lose the least when they are card dead.

I just sometimes sit at one table for three, four hours before getting any playable hands. When you get spider webs on your chips it might actually be time to make a move against people who are watching. Against people who are not watching, just keep waiting.

The funny thing is, on Poker Champs, where I used to play on the lowest stakes there were pretty observational opponents that folded if you didn't play say 20 hands in a row. I mean, like 5 people would fold to you when you bet out. That's because the people who played the lowest stakes most likely played the freerolls first and won some money there. The donks probably bought in and played higher stakes.

So basically, you have to really know what you're doing before you pull anything. I'm fine with just a few hours of losing just the blinds. I've lost way more way faster.

Yeah, I think I need to work on the discipline a bit. Thanks for the tips! I appreciate the help!

Remember, echo, we're only expected to average around 1 big bet per 100 hands. If you go on a hot run where everything is hitting there will be (eventually) a downswing which should leave you just slightly above even. Its the net we care about.

Originally Posted by euphoricism

Remember, echo, we're only expected to average around 1 big bet per 100 hands. If you go on a hot run where everything is hitting there will be (eventually) a downswing which should leave you just slightly above even. Its the net we care about.

What? I thought it was 1 BB an hour (B&M goes at about 60 hands an hour or so?)

Obviously if youre playing bad players you expect your winrate to go up. B&M Players, by and large, are bad players.

Note that 1bb/hour is equal to about 1.6bb/100.

Uh, at the casino you MIGHT get dealt 30 hands in a hour. 1bb/hr at a cardroom would be more than 3bb/100. Still easily attainable in the right game.

Since we are talking about variance here, I just figured I'd post an interesting fact that I have noticed while looking over my last 400,000 hands. Over that stretch of hands, I have played 59,725 hands on Mondays and made $3,832 or about 639 BB(I play 3/6). On Thursdays, I have played 61,072 hands and lost $1,921 or about 320 BB. So, over about a 60,000 hand sample given roughly exactly the same playstyle for me, and opponent conditions, your winrate can vary that incredibly much. That is a difference between 1.07 BB/100 and -0.49 BB/100 over a 60,000 hand sample just from pure simple variance and little to nothing else(I highly doubt the games are much different at all on Thursdays than on Mondays). Kinda has to make you put very little stock in winrates you might have at this game at any given time and make you realize that you have to expect that if you play enough eventually you will lose for a very extended period of time through absolutely no fault of your own play. You've just gotta be able to deal with it and not let it bother you.

Originally Posted by Nehmer

Since we are talking about variance here, I just figured I'd post an interesting fact that I have noticed while looking over my last 400,000 hands. Over that stretch of hands, I have played 59,725 hands on Mondays and made $3,832 or about 639 BB(I play 3/6). On Thursdays, I have played 61,072 hands and lost $1,921 or about 320 BB. So, over about a 60,000 hand sample given roughly exactly the same playstyle for me, and opponent conditions, your winrate can vary that incredibly much. That is a difference between 1.07 BB/100 and -0.49 BB/100 over a 60,000 hand sample just from pure simple variance and little to nothing else(I highly doubt the games are much different at all on Thursdays than on Mondays). Kinda has to make you put very little stock in winrates you might have at this game at any given time and make you realize that you have to expect that if you play enough eventually you will lose for a very extended period of time through absolutely no fault of your own play. You've just gotta be able to deal with it and not let it bother you.

Or just stop playing on Thursdays :P

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Uh, at the casino you MIGHT get dealt 30 hands in a hour. 1bb/hr at a cardroom would be more than 3bb/100. Still easily attainable in the right game.

Yeah i used his 60/hr rate. 30/hr is more likely.