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Miggo
Old 01-19-2005, 06:11 PM     Post subject: Can someone look at these and straighten me out ... #1 (permalink)  
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Here are a few hands. After looking at them I am really a wuss post flop. I had put in comments between hands, but after reading my comments it let on to the outcome, so to not prejuduce (sp), I took them out.

Hand 1:

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) A, T, K (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 8 (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (16.25 BB) 3 (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 28.25 BB


Hand 2:

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K, 5, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Hand 3:


Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 9.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9, 5, 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) A (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Hand 4:

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9, 8.
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J, 2, 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB


Hand 5:

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, T.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J, 7, 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Hand 6:


Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, Q.
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 9, 9, 7 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (6 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:27 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: You should be driving with top pair up. Smells a lot like someone has QJ.
Hand 2: Hmmm... reads help a lot here. One reasonable line is to check/call the flop + turn then bet the river. Although I never know quite what to do when I run that line and he pops the river...
Hand 3: I'm inclined to raise or fold pre-flop. Calling the flop is horrible.
Hand 4: Fold pre-flop at all but the most loose/passive tables. Post-flop is fine.
Hand 5: Don't open limp from there. 3-bet the flop, once the diamond hits I would check/call it down too.
Hand 6: Horrible limp pre-flop. Post-flop is fine.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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#1
Raise the flop and the rest of the hand probably changes, but all the action from 3 different people, someone hit this flop harder than you. QJ

#2
I might have laid this one down on the turn without a read.


#3
Take advantage of late position. You have a weak TP thats vunerable raise here and try to fold out the blinds. Take control of this hand.

After the flop raise UTG is likely to check the turn to you and give you a free card if you so choose to take it.


#4
Not from early position, the rest is good.

#5
This is what I was talking about in #3. His raise put you in call down mode, he took control of the hand.

#6
Raise preflop, i like the rest.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:41 PM #4 (permalink)  
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#2
I might have laid this one down on the turn without a read.
You so silly...
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:43 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Here is my take.

Hand 1: I think you played it fine, I might of raised on the Flop, but then again QJ is a real possibility.

Hand 2: Raise on the flop, if he 3-bets fold.

Hand 3: Raise on the flop, I would have folded on the river to UTG+1 waking up and betting there.

Hand 4: Played well

Hand 5: I am folding on the turn.

Hand 6: Without any info on who you are playing or how your table image it, this one is hard to give feedback. When you checked on the river, what would have you done if he bet? If you would have folded, then your play was fine, if you would have called, then you should bet here and force him to make a decision.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:50 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 2: Raise on the flop, if he 3-bets fold.
Because AQ/AJ 88-22 won't 3-bet that flop?!?! So you raise the flop and the villian calls, turn is a blank, now what? What if the villian calls the flop raise and pops the turn, have you saved any value? What if the villian runs that line just to push you off a hand? Is calling down for 2BB given that action ever profitable? Ok, so he calls the flop raise and the turn, are you betting the river out of position too? Folding to a river raise?
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Old 01-19-2005, 07:31 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Of course those are good questions Fnord. I am not sure answers. The other thing I just realized is that my analysis is based on knowing the complete hand (without the results).

Looking at hand 2 again, I would probably raise that pre-flop. 7 Handed, the CO could very well be going for a blind steal with just Ax. Raising pre-flop would make the rest of the actions change, so I cannot add further analysis.
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Old 01-19-2005, 07:53 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Hand two: I don't know why I stayed in, I guess I didn't believe he had a K. Normally, if I even play a mid pocket pair like I think of 99, especially with an overcard, and a guy betting, I would just fold. I probably should've raised or folded the flop.

Hand 3: I was just confused the whole time, what the h@ll to do.

Hand 4: I'm usually tighter than this, and normally don't play unless alot of people are seeing the flop at the table.

Hand 5: Same as hand 3, don't know what I'm doing, or why.

I think that's where I have a problem, TP crappy kicker, or middle pair good kicker, I don't know what I'm doing and can't figure out about not betting or betting to protect my hand. I think alot depends on who else is in the hand and how they play, to dictate what I do. But maybe that shouldn't matter since a couple people have now said to take control of these hands.

Thanks for all the discussion, and for not beating me up too bad with the way I played these.
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