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nogenius
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11-03-2005, 12:09 AM
Post subject: Call down here? (0.25/0.50)
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Full House
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PokerRoom 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A , T .
3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 9 , Q, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.
Turn: (3.50 BB) A (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.
River: (6.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.
Final Pot: 9.50 BB
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How was the preflop call?
How do you usually play ATo with no reads?
Once I hit top pair, was it right to call down?
Thanks in advance. 
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Fnord
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11-03-2005, 12:19 AM
Post subject: Re: Call down here? (0.25/0.50)
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Originally Posted by nogenius
How was the preflop call?
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Lame
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Originally Posted by nogenius
How do you usually play ATo with no reads?
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Fast
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Originally Posted by nogenius
Once I hit top pair, was it right to call down?
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Probably.
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pokerfanatic
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11-03-2005, 12:22 AM
Post subject: Re: Call down here? (0.25/0.50)
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by nogenius
How was the preflop call?
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Lame
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Originally Posted by nogenius
How do you usually play ATo with no reads?
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Fast
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Originally Posted by nogenius
Once I hit top pair, was it right to call down?
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nogenius
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So it would probably have been a better move to fold preflop?
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Fnord
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So it would probably have been a better move to fold preflop?
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No
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Demiparadigm
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I raise preflop,
I raise the turn,
I check behind the river unimproved if I am feeling weak.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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thenonsequitur
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11-03-2005, 01:28 AM
Post subject: Re: Call down here? (0.25/0.50)
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by nogenius
Once I hit top pair, was it right to call down?
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Probably. |
Why is raising the turn not a better move? I think I've got the best hand here and that SB likely has K+pair or T+pair picking up gutshot to nut straight, weak pair+flush draw, or maybe A+x and picked up top pair weaker kicker than yours. I think the chance he spiked a second pair or has A+better kicker is very low, and I'm not too worried about him already having a straight or two pair. I bet he'll call your flop raise and probably call the river too. Also, I like putting pressure on the button forcing him to call two bets if he wants to stick around with his weak holding.
I thought the turn was a striaghtforward raise.
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Fnord
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It would be a straightforward raise in a bigger pot. As-is it's a funny spot where I really don't like folding, nor am I too keen on raising, so I would just call.
File this under "spots I don't get into very often because of my playing style"
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Demiparadigm
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File this under "spots I don't get into very often because of my playing style"
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How does this hand play when we raise preflop?
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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euphoricism
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heh, ATo is just one of those hands. Raise preflop or fold preflop, really nothing inbetween. Open limping is the worst.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
How does this hand play when we raise preflop?
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Bigger pot, better defined hands.
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