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LockLow34
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12-17-2004, 01:28 PM
Post subject: Buy-in Amount
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Flush
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Something I've been thinking about lately. I normally buy in for ~20 BB. But latetly, at least online, I've been buying in for 10 BB if there isn't much money on the table to start with. That is, if the majority of folks have under 20 BB. My thinking is, why should I risk 20BB if there isn't that much to win? Why not risk just 10 BB and go from there? The main reason against this would be that I wouldn't want to get short-stacked and have to go all-in.
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Miggo
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Straight
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I think that would be more of an issue in No Limit. In Limit, I always make sure I have at least 12BB because if I get the best hand against someone who thinks they have the best hand, I want to be able to max out the betting, which I think is 12BB. Some sites, shut of the raise cap after the river, so it could really be more than 12BB I guess.
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mike4066
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I will NEVER be caught short in a hand..
Capped Preflop/Flop/Turn/River = 12BB's.
15BB's is a minimum for me at a limit table.
I typically sit with 20-25, quite often re-load if I get below 15.
Your not risking "20bb's". This isn't No limit, during most hands of Limit you will only need between 3-6BB's, so its just a matter of your comfort level. The difference between 12BB's and 300BB's is nothing on a hand to hand basis. But the difference between 10 and 20 could be huge if your not careful.
But lets say you sit with 10BB's. You lose your first hand dropping 3bb's, and then you lose 2BB on the next hand and reload, but the cards are dealt before you reload. Suddenly you have 5BB's to start with, of course you hit the nuts to someone who hit second nuts, the action goes crazy. Suddenly you can't cap the turn because you ran out of money, and they get away for free on the river because you didn't have enough to cover the hand.
The above hand happened to me at the begining of the year. I refuse to let it happen again. The hand above was 3way action and the other 2 guys capped the river. I missed out on 10BB's because I couldn't stick with them.
So hope this gives you something ot think of when you consider a short-buy-in.
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mike4066
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Originally Posted by Miggo
Some sites, shut of the raise cap after the river, so it could really be more than 12BB I guess.
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Interpoker does this if you start a turn "head up". 2 people seeing the flop? No betting cap.. away it goes
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koolmoe
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12-17-2004, 01:54 PM
Post subject: Re: Buy-in Amount
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Full House
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Originally Posted by LockLow34
Something I've been thinking about lately. I normally buy in for ~20 BB. But latetly, at least online, I've been buying in for 10 BB if there isn't much money on the table to start with. That is, if the majority of folks have under 20 BB. My thinking is, why should I risk 20BB if there isn't that much to win? Why not risk just 10 BB and go from there? The main reason against this would be that I wouldn't want to get short-stacked and have to go all-in.
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I'm assuming you're talking about limit since this is the limit forum.
Your buy-in should be more a function of table aggression than anything else. If no one is reraising, you'll rarely be in for more than 4-5 bets on a hand.
Not sure what you mean about how much you are risking. You are risking the same range (between 1 SB and 12 BB or your stack, whichever is smaller) each hand, and calling rather than raising can further limit your risk.
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