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jjkenx
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03-10-2009, 02:41 AM
Post subject: Bots....
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Someone was asking about poker bots earlier, and got the typical "its cheating" blah blah blah. It got me thinking, at what point is a poker calculater a bot? Is it just when it folds hands for you or is it more than that? At what point do people think using programs is immoral?
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TLR
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My opinion: It is a bot if it makes the decisions
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OneEyeLefty
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Straight
Join Date: Dec 2008
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If you have software making decisions for you. You are a bot. End of story. Every situation is different of course. However, if you aren't making decisions, all of them. You are a bot.
Lefty
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Careful what you wish for.....you just may get it!
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diseelinger
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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all bots and computers take decisions based on probabilities, and poker everybody know isn´t just that! is too much more! almost everytime the low odds beats the high odds... so i woul´dn´t trust my money on a bot!
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bb2
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05-05-2009, 07:24 AM
Post subject: Online poker- what is moral?
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Hi jjkex
When poker players started playing on line i think the question of morality went down the drain, you can’t see your fellow player and vice versa, so anyone can do whatever he likes, don't you think?
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pool123
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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the best way to to tell if it is bot if it bets the same way everytime it is bot to the timeing will be the same way
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TLR
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Originally Posted by pool123
the best way to to tell if it is bot if it bets the same way everytime it is bot to the timeing will be the same way
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This is a very simplistic and incorrect thinking, I am sure any person who will program a bot will use some sort of random functions to emulate human behavior
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Poker Orifice
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Flush
Join Date: May 2008
Location: B.C. Canada
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Use any program while playing on the tables against me... I could care less.
Typically bots are used in lowest limit Turbo Sng's and guarantee only a very marginal +ROI. From what I've read about them, they aren't worth it and aren't worth worrying about.
As far as when does other software programs border on being considered a bot?... who knows... would be debatable I suppose.
If there's folks using programs that have huge databases in them... oh well.... doesn't bother me. If there's using something like Tournament Indicator (or whatever the names of some of the programs that calculate eq etc.) and indicates whether or not they should fold, call or raise.... whatever... go for it. Again.. it doesn't bother me in the least.
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"SEIBORG"
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Poker Orifice
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Flush
Join Date: May 2008
Location: B.C. Canada
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pretty sure it's not a bot when it starts bitchin' on the table about someone bein' a donk after they've gotten their money in bad and sucked out huge. Yah... I don't think that's a bot.
OR... when they pull a HUGE suckout from a retarded play and then say 'See ya Son'... yup.. pretty sure that's not a bot either (ie. One eyed Lefty is not a bot, lol).
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kalik
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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I am affraid that the best Kiev players on Poker Stars on cash tables (5 Card draw) are the bots. Don't you think so?
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