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Old 04-14-2005, 04:37 AM     Post subject: Bloody 2/4 session...need wisdom... #1 (permalink)  
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Hands for review...any mistakes?

Hand 1:
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, MP2 calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) 9, J, J (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP2 folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11.75 BB) 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (11.75 BB) Q (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Hand 2:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J.
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2, 5, 6 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 3 (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Hand 3:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8.
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2, 8, 4 (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 7 (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) J (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB


Hand 4:
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T, A.
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 2, A, 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) T (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Hand 5:
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) A, 2, T (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls $2.86 (All-In).

Final Pot: 11.46 BB

Hand 6:
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3, 6, K (3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 7 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls $1 (All-In), Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hi Chicago

These are just my thoughts to compare with your own. I am, at best, an average player.

Hand 1 - I would have bet the turn. The 2 has to be a brick for eveyone. After three checks it's hard to get a read on whether the river action is legit.

Hand 2 - same as I would play it
Hand 3 - same as I would play it (I like the smooth call)
hand 4 - same
Hand 5 - some might say u should have capped the turn and called the river, but I would play as you did ( I fear two pair here on a weak ace, or trip 6s) Would UTG limp with weak ace???

Hand 6 - looks good. I wonder if others would think it weak just to call the flop bet by the SB?? Me thinks the SB has AK or QQ
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:10 AM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1: bet
hand 2: same
hand 3: same
hand 4: same
hand 5: i 3bet the turn, call down
hand 6: same
 
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 Hand 1: Really bad turn play, No need to give your opponents a free card, or yourself for that matter, when you have Pocket Aces. You arent drawing to anything so you are just trying to win a big pot. BAAAAADDDDDD!!!!!!!

Hand 2: I doubt the guy has a club or a 4, if anything he has a pocket pair or a Kx. This play is pretty typical of a decent player, did you have a read on him?

Hand 3: Yup.

Hand 4: Tough luck on the flush.

Hand 5: Yeah, might as well put him all in on the river anyway.

Hand 6: Yeah, good play here.


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Old 04-14-2005, 05:26 AM #5 (permalink)  
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1. Bet the turn
2. Fine
3. Fine, could pop the flop but is ok to wait here
4.call the turn and river,
5. Dont raise this river, he most likely has you beat
6. I think your beat here to AA KK or AK but your call down is ok I guess pot is big


If it makes you feel any better I moved up to 5/10 and since then every 2/4 session I have had has been terrible, -75bb in about 3000 hands yuck.
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Old 04-14-2005, 01:09 PM #6 (permalink)  
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To vent for a minute, this was one of the worst sessions I've EVER had at 2/4. Apparently, many of the bad, yet tricky, players have moved there from 1/2. By this, I mean they seem to play all sorts of hands and seem to hit or just plain suckout against me. Then when they suckout, the checkraise the river, and trap me for two bets. This specific river suck/check raise play happened to me at least 10 times last night. Either this is the case, or I am just having a terrible time adjusting to this level from 1/2.

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Hand 1: Really bad turn play, No need to give your opponents a free card, or yourself for that matter, when you have Pocket Aces. You arent drawing to anything so you are just trying to win a big pot. BAAAAADDDDDD!!!!!!!.
Yeah, I pussed out on this one. I had a sinking feeling one of them had a J--not my usual play here at all. In short, he did, which was par for the day.

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Hand 2: I doubt the guy has a club or a 4, if anything he has a pocket pair or a Kx. This play is pretty typical of a decent player, did you have a read on him?
Yeah, he was a 35-40 VPIP'er, who raised a lot, so I figured I probably could be ahead. But OF COURSE this asshat had a damn K--and 4. Another typical hand for this session. And he didn't have a club.[/quote]

Hand 1:
Results in white below:
UTG has Kc Tc (straight, king high).
UTG+1 has Th Kh (straight, king high).
Outcome: UTG wins 8.87 BB. UTG+1 wins 8.87 BB.

Hand 2:
Results in white below:
MP2 has Kh 4h (straight, six high).
Hero has Jd Jc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins 7.75 BB.

Hand 3:
Results in white below:
MP2 has 5d 7c (one pair, sevens).
Hero has 8c 8d (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.25 BB.

Hand 4:
Results in white below:
SB has 3s Qs (flush, ace high).
Hero has Th Ad (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: SB wins 11.50 BB.

Hand 5:
Results in white below:
UTG+1 has Th 6h (two pair, tens and sixes).
Hero has Ad Kh (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.46 BB.

Hand 6:
Results in white below:
SB has As Ah (one pair, aces).
UTG+1 has Js 5s (one pair, fives).
Hero has Qd Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins 14.75 BB.
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Old 04-14-2005, 01:12 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
If it makes you feel any better I moved up to 5/10 and since then every 2/4 session I have had has been terrible, -75bb in about 3000 hands yuck.
I suppose it does...per my previous whiny message

It's unbelieveable how the combination of suckouts and tricky players just smash my WR. I need to find a way to beat these games, as 1/2 is pretty boring--yet profitable--at this point for me.
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