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euphoricism
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01-17-2007, 03:35 PM
Post subject: Blinds Blinds Blinds
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4-of-a-Kind
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Guess I'm out of practice, my blinds are kiiiilling me. So in an effort to figure out why...
Whats your VPIP/PFR out of the BB and SB?
How many BB's are you losing per hand?
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Euph, we know the you know that you know this. Maybe Im wrong and I dont wanna piss ya off but you know blind play is totally read dependent and to put stats on it would be limiting it. Why not post some blind war hands and we'll see whats going on?
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Yes, I know. Now what vpip are you running out of the blinds? ;]
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Ill have to look at my PT when I get home, Im at work for about 5 more hours.
BTW, my blind play sucks too
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Bullet Tooth
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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My stats are as follows, would be interesting to see how it compares. Blind play is one on a very long list of my leaks that need plugging 
This is from 45k hands and 9k each of BB and SB.
BB /SB
VPIP 18.3% / 34.3%
PFR 8.3% / 13%
Win % 24.7% / 13.8%
BB/hand (0.19)  / (0.09)
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Edited cuz mi es muey stupido
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Small Blind
VPIP: 36.17
PFR: 14.10
Amount won: (.08bb/100)
Amount won w/o blind: 2.40bb/100
Big Blind
VPIP: 27.19
PFR: 5.5
Amount won: (.29bb/100)
Amount won w/o blind: 2.49bb/100
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Bullet Tooth
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Don't mean to be picky, but is that per 100 hands? My PT stats show it per hand so would be a loss of 19bb /100. That is a serious leak for me by comparison if that is the case. I steal from the BB a lot... folded round and SB limps.. I'm in steal mode. BY this comparison, I might have to seriously re evaluate
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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No, thats per hand, and its unfortunately not very good. His SB is fucking sexy though.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Yea, WTF blind play? Think Im gonna have to post all my stats and see what ya'll think.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Looks like we need forum-wide blind play help. Its such a tricky thing, but there are definitely rules to follow.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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I've been reading posts from that **cough**other forum **cough** but blind play seems so situationally dependent. Not really sure what we could do.
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Bullet Tooth
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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OK, a starter... KQo in the BB is killing me. Any comments on the following general strategy that I tend to use?
Firstly, I am very passive with it pre flop. If it's multi-way, I am normally just checking and seeing what the flop brings. My reasoning being that no one is folding to a raise now and out of position, without an Ace, I am not very comfortable. I will tend to call one raise multiway but will 3 bet it with a steal attempt from Button and sometimes CO.
On the flop, I am mostly fit or fold, especially if an Ace flops. I will peel one if there is no Ace and the pot warrants it. If I hit, I am normally betting out. I don't think people respect the strength of the kicker from BB. I occasionally C/R if there is an aggro who I am fairly sure will bet. (but I prefer the 3 bet option if he raises my bet).
I think I may be being to0 passive with it and that's why it's costing me. How are others playing this hand from BB? Let me know if you want some hand examples for comparison.
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