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Hermann the Lombard
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09-24-2007, 12:15 AM
Post subject: Blind Pairs
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 270
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PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , 9 .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 8, J , K (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, SB calls.
Turn: (4 BB) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.
River: (6 BB) 9 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.
Final Pot: 10 BB
How would you have played this? SB is a fish (43/3/1) but I don't have any relevant ranges of hands.
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DrivingDog
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Full House
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Location: UK
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It's hard to put a player on a hand when he donks the river. He could be bluffing or he could have just made a good hand. Your two pair are behind to any K, any 8, any two spades, or QT. While he might be goofy enough to bet with T9 here or as a total bluff, i'd be fairly concerned about being behind. I'd probably call and hope it was just him making a misguided play.
p.s. usually better not to show any action after your decision point (i.e., the fact that he calls makes it pretty unlikely he has a flush, but you don't know when you raise and we shouldn't know that either)
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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raising the river cannot be +EV
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TylerK
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4-of-a-Kind
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on the river, call > fold > raise
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Hermann the Lombard
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 270
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by DrivingDog
usually better not to show any action after your decision point (i.e., the fact that he calls makes it pretty unlikely he has a flush, but you don't know when you raise and we shouldn't know that either)
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Sorry about that, I should have simply edited out the end of the converted HH. I considered doing this as a two-parter with the flop decision point first, then the river later in the same thread...then said screw it and posted the whole HH. 
So while I'm on the subject, any comments on the flop raise? Otherwise silence=assent.  My thought is that someone with a King will probably push back...though that thought is silly at this level. I've been amazed by some of the hands that have NOT pushed back at me, but I guess that's what the "1" part of 43/3/1 implies, doesn't it?
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