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DrivingDog
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09-02-2007, 02:03 PM
Post subject: blind battle with TAG
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Villian is 27/18 over about 250 hands, and seems pretty solid postflop. I'm guessing his 3betting range preflop is approx. 55+, A9+, KJ+, A7s, KTs, QJs. Don't have enough experience with him to know what he'd raise the river with in this situation, but he's never seemed afraid to put his chips in on the river.
Do i call or 3bet the river here?
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , 7 .
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Flop: (6 SB) 8 , 6 , 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.
Turn: (7 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (9 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero ?.
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dsaxton
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Seems like an easy call given the pot size. He could have 7-7 or be overplaying a set.
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daven
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I call. I don't really want to be making a decision regarding calling his 4-bet, and I doubt that you're going to get a better hand to fold. Sure, overpairs and sets play the same line, but I've recently started to lose smaller pots and it feels good...
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Fnord
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Don't cap the flop and check the turn please.
River is an easy call.
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dsaxton
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Capping the flop isn't that bad. He probably has an equity edge and it conceals his hand.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
conceals his hand.
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Not when he checks the turn. Also, that line is so common, stopping at 3 would be deceptive.
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DrivingDog
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I get your point but I also don't like the idea of getting raised on the turn. I guess with up to 18 outs it isn't such a disaster though.
I sometimes c/r this turn against weak opponents because if a heart comes on the river and they have Kh or Qh they'll usually cap.
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DrivingDog
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Vilian turned over 99
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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Fnord
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LoL @ Online poker. Yeah, I was thinking river 3-bet here but just couldn't pull the trigger...
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dsaxton
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Originally Posted by Fnord
LoL @ Online poker. Yeah, I was thinking river 3-bet here but just couldn't pull the trigger...
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A bit results-oriented. I think 3-betting the river is spew.
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DrivingDog
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Originally Posted by Fnord
LoL @ Online poker. Yeah, I was thinking river 3-bet here but just couldn't pull the trigger...
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A bit results-oriented. I think 3-betting the river is spew.
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At the time i thought it was right to just call. But after the hand i thought if the range i put him on preflop was correct, then there were only 4 possible flush hands he could have had (KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, QhJh), 3 QJs-not-hearts hands that could have made a better straight (but seem unlikely given the action), and 21 possible set or KK+ hands. He's probably not putting me on a made flush with this action and I would think a straight is the last thing on his mind after the flop was capped. So i'm kinda leaning towards thinking i should have liked my chances and 3bet.
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