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littleogre
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11-25-2007, 08:00 AM
Post subject: Blind battle question
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We are the BB and the sb raises first in. What range should we be reraising? Clearly the answer depends greatly on the stealing range of the sb but in general what is the correct reraising range?
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Hermann the Lombard
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Novice answer: I think it depends completely on your read of the SB...and that includes what *he* thinks you'll call or raise with. You can throw in some table texture if that's what you have. As a stone cold theoretical question I would half suspect you could raise with almost any two, but more realistically I would think your usual BB raising range plus any ace and any two Broadways. Connectors aren't worth anything with only one in the pot.
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Oh, no! Not another learning experience!
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littleogre
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might not be an answerable question as clearly we can raise more hands against an aggressive blind stealer then we can against a player that rarely steals.
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pokerfanatic
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i once heard that you can play just about any 2 when SB raises PF (of course that was in HU play so i don't know how it translates into FR blinds)...
i try not to get myself into the situation where the SB is a good blind player or steals a great deal and then plays well post flop... when i was playing with you yesterday for little while only reason i moved across the table was because i was getting tired of the dip shit on my left cold calling and giving the blinds fucking odds...
also that table you were at was horrid, it was full of rocks/ taggs, game selection might do you a great deal more to your win rate, given i have never seen you multi tabling ever... i think you truly need to maximize you seat selection...
also, i tend to play a lot of hands if i do get in a situation where the SB tends to play a lot when it's folded to him/her... probably venture to guess in that situation i play around 60%+ of my hands, some for calls some for 3 bets and a few mix3ed for deception purposes...
oh BTW what you have on that hand? lol, I'm 100% sure at best i was a coin flip but more likely behind... i had a weaker hand then you probably think...
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littleogre
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The problem with trying to find a better table is the ftp game is full of rocks. I had k/q on the hand. I would not of tried the play on most but i felt strongly that you had no J and that you likely didn't even have a pair and if you did it was less then Qs So given read if you have nothing or i can push you off a under pair i pick the pot up right there. If you call with say pocket 10s or less then i have 6 outs to win. I could of called given that k/q is good in that spot but i decided it was better to try and win right there.
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pokerfanatic
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i had 66, i just figured at best i was a coin flip, so it was gonna be a way behind or slightly ahead type hand i was only saying over pair to save face...
ohh and BTW, yea you're right FR is rocky as shit why you think i play 6m... playin 4 table now and all 4 have at least one 50+ VPIP on them... a ton more action with people making more mistakes more often...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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littleogre
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yea i get stuck at tables all the time where nobody has a vp$ip of over 14%
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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well shit ogre, you know the best way to fix that?
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littleogre
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
well shit ogre, you know the best way to fix that?
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well yea find another table but you see they are all the same. I don't think you understand how many tight wads hang out at ftp.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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learn 6 max
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littleogre
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In fairness i will run into a table of crazy people once in a while where it is 3-bet and capped damn near every flop and there are always 4+ people seeing the flop. Such tables can be a dream or a nightmare.
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KY_Ace
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I like re-raising any PP since they are hard to play when your opponent is the aggressor, big aces, big Ks, I'm not crazy about re-raising weak aces since they will usually put you on an ace and play accordingly, i'd rather raise the turn on a paired board or make some other delayed play with a weak ace.
As far as folding goes, any more than %25 of your hands gives them a big edge. Say you're playing 10-20, they take a hand that they would normally fold and raise it instead, you fold, $30 swing, they risk $30 to make $30. However just because you call doesn't mean they lose $30, I'd guess they lose $10 on average when you call since even 72o will beat AK %33 of the time( yes I'm aware of the fact that there is more betting post flop, but this can work for you just as easily as against you ). Now they are risking $10 to make $30 so you can't allow this to work more than 1/4 of the time.
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