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Old 01-05-2005, 10:29 PM     Post subject: Big Hands not doing their job #1 (permalink)  
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 Big Hands Not holding up today:

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7, Q, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 5 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Ac (three of a kind, aces).
SB has 6d 4s (straight, seven high).
Outcome: SB wins 14 BB.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J, K, T (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (8 BB) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results in white below:
CO has Qh 9c (straight, nine to king).
Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: CO wins 10 BB.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A.
Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 8, 3, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.66 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Ac (one pair, kings).
MP2 has 6c 2c (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP2 wins 9.66 BB.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) Q, J, 4 (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 3 (5 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, UTG raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, CO calls, Button folds.

River: (15.66 BB) 6 (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 18.66 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has 4h 4c (three of a kind, fours).
Hero has Kh Kd (one pair, kings).
CO has 8h Qs (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins 18.66 BB.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) A, Q, J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.66 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.66 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
Button has As Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Button wins 10.66 BB.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A.
UTG folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 6, 5, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.66 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.66 BB) A (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Ah (full house, aces full of fours).
UTG+2 has 3h 2d (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 10.66 BB.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 7, T, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.16 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Qc Qd (one pair, queens).
CO has 8s As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: CO wins 11.16 BB.

I tried incorporating some HEPFAP concepts on that last one....didn't work out too well. CO was TAG, 17 VPIP, 9 PFR through 500 hands.

I'm only down about 25 BB so far, even with all the above. I'm gonna switch sites and try and make it back.


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Old 01-05-2005, 10:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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what are the results from hand 2? you cant both have the same hand.

edit: some of this doesnt make sense. the second hand from the button says he had 3h 2d, but it also says he has a straight flush. wtf?
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Old 01-05-2005, 10:50 PM #3 (permalink)  
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It happens.

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Old 01-05-2005, 10:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Switch to NL. Protect them aces.

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Old 01-05-2005, 11:10 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Fixed the problems, must have been a problem with the bison bison converter.


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Old 01-06-2005, 12:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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those are some brutal hands...especially that first one
 
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:37 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Switch to NL. Protect them aces.

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Old 01-06-2005, 03:23 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A, K, 2 (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) Q (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Tc Jc (straight flush, ace high).
Hero has Qd As (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: SB wins 12 BB.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, A. MP3 posts a blind of $3.
UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets, MP3 (poster) folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11 SB) A, A, K (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP2 raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (23.50 BB) T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 25.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Kh Tc (two pair, aces and kings).
Hero has Qd As (three of a kind, aces).
MP2 has Kd Kc (full house, kings full of aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins 25.50 BB.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 9, Q, K (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) T (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, MP3 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (17.16 BB) 9 (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 27.16 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Jd Ah (straight, ace high).
Hero has Qd Qh (full house, queens full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 27.16 BB.


Wow, what a day. I still finished down $4, but i'll take it!

Mike, the last hand was dedicated to you, i didnt fold my trips on the turn and got payed off quite nicely.


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full houses are the most profitable hands especially when you are up against likely flushes and straights. i think it's worth the extra 2 or 3 extra big bets on the turn to hit on the river and cap another 4 with the others.
 
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Funny how that happens...

Oh, and both of them are idiots for not paying me off more

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Preflop: Fnord is CO with T, T.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Fnord raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 4, J, 8 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Fnord raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.16 BB) T (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 calls, Fnord 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, MP2 calls, Fnord calls.

River: (19.16 BB) 4 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Fnord raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 25.16 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 7s 9c (straight, jack high).
MP2 has 8d 8h (full house, eights full of fours).
Fnord has Td Ts (full house, tens full of fours).
Outcome: Fnord wins 25.16 BB.
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Old 01-06-2005, 04:40 AM #11 (permalink)  
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 holy shit those are some tough beats. did you really get clobbered with all those premium hands in one day?? sounds like you caught the same ill run of cards that i had 2 weeks ago at the casino. QQ's and JJ's crushed by bizarro straights on the river in $6/$12 kill pots. at my worst, i was down more than 80 big bets!! but have faith, all luck normalizes over time and you WILL get back on track. patience and discipline are on your side. if i can pull myself out of such a deep chasm with my limited skills, surely you can too.

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 All in one day man, all in one day.

BUT, after an even later afternoon session playing Gutshot, I made $6 today!!

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Your pity party is over! :P

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A.
Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 (elipsesjeff) 3-bets, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero caps, MP3 (elipsesjeff) calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) J, 3, Q (2 players)
Hero bets, elipsesjeff calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets, elipsesjeff calls.

River: (7.75 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, elipsesjeff raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac As (two pair, aces and jacks).
elipsesjeff has Jd Ah (full house, jacks full of threes).
Outcome: elipsesjeff wins 11.75 BB.
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