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Lance
Old 01-03-2008, 04:59 PM     Post subject: is it best to fold here ? #1 (permalink)  
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What to do when everyone folds to me and i am button with hand like 22, 33, A8o...and i know blinds are loose agressive.

If i call and i will be raised - is it worth it to call to see the flop too much costly ?

(if blinds are loose passive is best to call here - its written in HPFAP by D.Sklansky and M.Malmuth)

thx for comments
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littleogre
Old 01-03-2008, 07:08 PM #2 (permalink)  

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well in a normal game you should raise all those hands first in from the button. In a game where both blinds are maniacs i'm not sure as i rarely run into that situation. How do they act when you raise them? Does it bring them under control or do they just 3-bet you? How do they play post flop. If they are post flop bullies set hunting might not be such a bad idea. I mean if they are the type that insist on geting the last bet in then you would have huge implied odds. Personally i hate limping first in from the button so i would either raise or fold
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Hermann the Lombard
Old 01-03-2008, 08:08 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't want to limp those hands unless I have a bunch of limpers in front to pad the pot for set value (and who will almost certainly call a raise from the blinds). I also don't want to raise those, they're too weak for my blood...but if you must act here first in, raise.

Meanwhile, I'd be looking to change seats!!!

Barring that, change tables.
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arborman
Old 01-04-2008, 12:08 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Hermann the Lombard
I don't want to limp those hands unless I have a bunch of limpers in front to pad the pot for set value (and who will almost certainly call a raise from the blinds). I also don't want to raise those, they're too weak for my blood...but if you must act here first in, raise.

Meanwhile, I'd be looking to change seats!!!

Barring that, change tables.
Yeah, 2 maniacs on your left is not a recipe for success no matter what your cards are. Move is your best bet, and save yourself the agony - unless you have a very good reason to play that table at that time.

Ideal table has 3 or 4 loose passives on your right and 3 pucker tight nits on your left. Get as close to that ideal as you can when picking your spots.
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