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steviebrutal

12-20-2004, 01:26 AM Post subject: Was this being overzealous?

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I apologize for the non-converted hand... but the converter doesnt like the new PR format I guess.

Reads are notated through comments ("//").

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ANTES/BLINDS
slumom posts blind ($0.25), dstone23 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
KyRdDg60 folds, shug1003 calls $0.50, Liora calls $0.50, JSchlepp calls $0.50, Ingrid x folds, xbruticusx bets $1, geen1960 folds, isellwkeys folds, slumom folds, dstone23 folds, shug1003 bets $1, Liora calls $1, JSchlepp folds, xbruticusx calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 7C,7D,3C ]
shug1003 bets $0.50, Liora calls $0.50, xbruticusx bets $1, shug1003 calls $0.50, Liora calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards 7C,7D,3C,2H ]
shug1003 checks, Liora checks, xbruticusx bets $1, shug1003 calls $1, Liora folds.

RIVER [board cards 7C,7D,3C,2H,6S ]
shug1003 checks, xbruticusx bets $1, shug1003 calls $1.

Im starting to think, hands like this showcase a big hole in my play.

Results:
SHOWDOWN
xbruticusx shows [ KD,QD ]
shug1003 shows [ AD,AH ]
shug1003 wins $12.15.

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elipsesjeff

12-20-2004, 02:02 AM

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Hmmm, everything looks good except for the turn call and river call. I would fold after calling the bet on the flop to see if you improve or not.

You have 6 overs and a backdoor straight giving you 7.5 outs, you have odds for the flop, not the turn. Stick with the odds and you'll do fine. You can't expect to beat a bluff if you cant beat high card.

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steviebrutal

12-20-2004, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

I bet out on the turn and the river. I think that was strictly for table image. I would have folded to any aggression. 2 more BB in a HU pot with a player that has called down with garbage most of the time seemed like a good bet.

Do you think it was a mistake to bet out on the later streets?

elipsesjeff

12-20-2004, 06:47 AM

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I find it odd you would raise with not even Ace high after you were raised preflop. You've got to think he's got at least an Ace if he three bet you or a higher pocket pair. I would call the flop bet and check/fold the turn. But since you raised the flop, you should have taken the free card on the turn, and check/folded the river. This way you get to see both the turn and river for 1 small bet and fold the river without improving.

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Fnord

12-20-2004, 08:13 AM

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King-high, 2 overs and a backdoor flush draw isn't enough to justify raising the flop. I'd call (and be glad to close the action) and plan to fold unimproved on the turn.

The guy with AA played his hand horribly post-flop.

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