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JJDylan
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03-15-2005, 05:27 PM
Post subject: Beating Tight Tables
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
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does anyone have any advice on beating tight tables? for the past few months ive been playing at the party poker .5/1 tables and absolutley beating them with ease. I recently switched over to Absolute poker to take advantage of some of hte bonus' they have...ive been playing the .5/1 and some 1/2 over there and ive been getting crushed. As a wholet he play here has been much tighter and more agressive than at party...with alot more preflop raising, and almost never a free card after the flop, yet at showdown i still seem to get beat by the same junk hands the fish at party suck out with.
What i notice is that no matter how i play them, i cant seem to generate the action on my winning hands to offset all the times i have 2 pair beat by some low flush draw on the river and such. I'll win a nice pot every now and then with a made hand...but most of the time im picking up a bunch of tiny pots with some bluffs and blind steals in between being grinded to death by my missed hands and pots i lose (both legitimatley and to the "bad" beats)
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Sed
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There are good tables everywhere, they are just harder to find on some sites... Don't stick around on a table that is hard just to feed your ego.
You will have to tighten up on some of these other sites. I had the same problem on Poker Room. I found that I needed to cut back on offsuit EP/MP raises. They were profitable at Party .5/1 but really killed me when I played some tighter tables.
- sed
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JJDylan
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Originally Posted by sed
There are good tables everywhere, they are just harder to find on some sites... Don't stick around on a table that is hard just to feed your ego.
You will have to tighten up on some of these other sites. I had the same problem on Poker Room. I found that I needed to cut back on offsuit EP/MP raises. They were profitable at Party .5/1 but really killed me when I played some tighter tables.
- sed
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ive tightend up alot, and cut back my raises with hands like KQo and even AQo in EP/MP....ive been treating an UTG limper at these tables like i would a n EP raiser at party...cause usually the hand requirements are about the same for the 2. but nothing is working...and the fact that there are only 4/5 tables per limit doesnt help the fact as most people are multi-tabling these tables anyways
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Fnord
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Why would you ever limp AQo?
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JJDylan
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why would you ever limp AQo?
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i normally wouldnt, and raise a wide variety of hands much worse than this too...i guess im just struggling to find a way to beat these tables. Its not even the tightness thats giving me problems...its that the play is just too random to get a good feel for. With so few people seeing the flop, there tends to be fewer opportunities to go after my draws, etc... and also, I've seen everything from AA to K2s raised preflop from any position. And when a preflop raise gets so much respect from all the players (including myself) its next to impossible to know when someone is raising with BS.
I guess its just a growing period in my game, at the tables i play at party i was always the agressive/tricky one. Now i find myself laying down hands i would normally raise with instead of cold calling, only to find out the raiser is holding 78s. And have often gotten caught raising AJ or KQ from late position only to run into someone who limped in with AK or AQ and will check/call the whole way down when they have me dominated after hitting top pair
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by JJDylan
And have often gotten caught raising AJ or KQ from late position only to run into someone who limped in with AK or AQ and will check/call the whole way down when they have me dominated after hitting top pair
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Isn't it great that they often fail to extract the max from you after giving up pre-flop value to lay a trap? By that line of reasoning you shouldn't raise Jacks, Queens or maybe even Kings because one of those bozos may have limped Aces...
Anyway, PlayerView helps a lot with some of the more maginal decisions. AQo in an unraised pot isn't marginal.
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